They changed it with 2008 or 2008 R2. Arguably we don't need 2 socket vSphere hosts but you get to a situation where the OS licenses cost a basic minimum which makes buying a second socket a no-brainer.
Still quite scary how few VM's you need before Datacenter becomes viable though, plus of course you can make "Enterprise" your default image so you don't get tripped up six months later if you want to do clustering or something that needs Enterprise. ________________________________ From: Don Ely [[email protected]] Sent: 20 September 2011 5:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualisation software Ah yes, 2 processor minimum... On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: No. They're not... Data Center Licenses may only be run on multi-processor boxes. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Don Ely <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Well, if they only have one processor in the host they're fine... ;o) On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I sure hope it's more than one Data Center license... On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Steven Peck <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We run VMware here and for every VMware host we have a Windows Data Center license. Watching the new HyperV 3 features and our environment requirements and VMware's license changes, we'll be checking into it more next year as the Server software gets into beta and release. We are in the beginnings of our 3 year agreement with VMware so no immediate cost change for us. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: And as for Client Access Licenses (CALs), that doesn’t matter what you are running on the host – you still appropriate CALs. Cheers Ken From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualisation software No matter which virtualization solution you obtain, you will need to license the Windows guests that run in them. If you're running Linux guests, then you're fine, of course. Purchasing an Enterprise license for Windows will allow for the running of up to 4 guests against that license. Purchases a Data Center license will allow for running an unlimited number of Windows guests against that particular license. You need to review the licensing documentation again.... http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Nigel Parker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi thanks to everyone that replied ! I have a working solution as we used Vmware products before that's why I went down this route I though with Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 you needed licenses for the clients to connect as we are running a mix of 2k and 2003 servers I gave this a miss, as we will have a number of people connecting to these virtual machines I want the bare metal route as we cant spend anything at the moment And our thinking was that bare metal would have less overhead and therefore allow us to run more machines on the same host Thanks for all the replies Regards Nigel -----Original Message----- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: 19 September 2011 17:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualisation software For Bare Metal + Free, I think your only options are ESXi and XenServer. For nearly Bare Metal + Free, check out: Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 - http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3512 ProxmoxVE - http://pve.proxmox.com/ We ended up using Hyper-V, but not the "nearly bare-metal" one linked above. We decided to use the full install of Windows Server and run Hyper-V on top so we could keep the ease of use functionality, 3rd party network and RAID management compatibility, and it wasn't _that_ much more headroom to have the full windows experience. The fact that the licensing allows us to the host server "for free" is nice, too. See: http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V irtualization-Licensing.ashx<http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V%0d%0airtualization-Licensing.ashx> Proxmox looks awesome for a linux based VM server. I recommend you try this one only if you're planning a small scale deployment, as they don't have any good clustering support, yet. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: Nigel Parker [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 01:16:57 -0700 Subject: Virtualisation software > Hi > I am looking for some Bare metal Virtualisation software the criteria I > have been given is that it must be > FREE! > > I looked on Vmware website and although they list > VMware vSphere Hypervisor > As Free it seem the product when I installed it said It was a 60 day > version - they gave me a serial number and I tired to follow the docs > about entering it however I didn't have the icon on my client to select > and install the license > > Is the product still free - > Do you have to run it for 60 days before you can enter the serial number > > Have I finally lost it ? > > Help would be appreciated > > Nigel Parker > > Systems Engineer > Ultraframe (UK) Ltd > Tel: 01200 452329 > Fax: 01200 452201 > Web: <www.ultraframe.com<http://www.ultraframe.com>> > Email: > <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may not > represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. > This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it is > confidential and may be legally privileged. 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