Thanks Bob. I would suggest look at Commvault. I say that simple because we used to use ArcServe (admittedly we are talking some time back) and switched to it and I've never looked back.
They do standard licensing and they also do a capacity license where you license the amount of data you want to backup (frontend) and you can use any mix of their agents to do it. The dedupe works really well and is source side so you really cut down on the amount of data going over the pipe to your HQ. They also do some rather funky synthetic full backups where you essentially do an initial "proper" full backup, and from that point onwards you only ever run incremental backups. The downside is that I think you're going to be pushing it at that budget, but end of year/quarter and the likes means you may be able do something - I would certainly be asking the question of a reseller. The bottom line is that dedupe and all the stuff to take away the problems you're having isn't cheap. Other vendors I'd look at would be HP Data Protector, DPM (no dedupe but seems to fit very well in an MS shop), and if I were going out today looking at backup software, I'd be really tempted to find out something about Unitrends - they have some interesting looking pricing models. ________________________________ From: Bob Hartung [[email protected]] Sent: 17 November 2011 7:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software See below... ---------------------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ________________________________ From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0600 Subject: RE: Backup Software With respect, I'm still not clear what you're looking to backup. Server backups. Is it all of the data, is it the subset of the data that's at the remote sites? I'd plan to back each server up to its local location and periodically replicate. I'd replicate bidirectionally between the Main and Cross-Town locations and replicate from the Out-of-State back to the Main location. The plan is to only backup what's changed since the last backup. Most of the backup solutions I've looked at have utilities to compress the incremental backups into fewer files to reduce the total number of files. You have 3tb available in each location, is that 3tb you could backup to, or are you saying it's 3tb of potential source data in each location? Just mentioning that to say my budget does not need to cover additional storage space. Are the servers file servers, Exchange servers, SQL servers? If so, what is the data split? No Exchange but we do use MySQL which I run data dumps on daily. What do you do now for backup? Arcserve using disk-to-disk-to-tape. Generally, I'd suggest moving to d2d2t but use source side dedupe and technologies like synthetic fulls to cut down your backup window. Personally I'm still a fan of tape for the "stick it in a safe" factor, tape libraries (kind of) solve the "forgot to change the tape" thing, and if you're doing d2d2t having a tape in a library is less important as your backups will still run. I don't really have any archival requirements. My main concerns are being able to quickly restore downed servers, reduce or eliminate the backup window and reduce or eliminate the use of tapes and depending on people at the remote site to put the right tape in, if they remember to do it at all. ________________________________ From: Bob Hartung [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: 17 November 2011 6:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software We have 3 locations with 10 servers Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers | | | | Wireless Bridge VPN (36Mb x 36MB) (3MB x 384K) | | | | Cross-Town Location: Out-of-State Location: (1) Windows 2003 server (1) Windows 2003 server 350 GB of Data 250 GB of Data We already have NAS units at each location with at least 3 TB of available storage. Budget: $7500 My intention with D2D is to have one full back with incremental backups so the backup window should be a non-issue. The incrementals can occur multiple times a day using VSS. ---------------------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ________________________________ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:18:12 -0600 Subject: Re: Backup Software What's your budget, size of environment, and amount of data for backups on a daily/weekly basis? (One thing to look at, if you're a Microsoft shop, is http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/system-center/data-protection-manager.aspx ) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Bob Hartung <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a disk-to-disk solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We currently are doing disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm tired of people telling me they forgot to put the next tape in. I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings on what's not so good. Thanks. ---------------------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. 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