I plan to check both of them out.

My current disk-to-disk-tape backup at Main location uses 400 GB of space.

Thanks.

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Bob Hartung
Dir of I.T.
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:48:36 -0600
Subject: Re: Backup Software

Take a look at Ultrabac, in addition to the earlier Microsoft DPM 
recommendation.


BTW, I think Paul was hoping you'd give a total storage count at some point, as 
you did not indicate the total size of storage under management for the primary 
location.
    

  



    

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On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Bob Hartung <[email protected]> wrote:
        
  See below...


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Bob Hartung
Dir of I.T.
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
    Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]

To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0600
Subject: RE: Backup Software


            
With respect, I'm still not clear what you're looking to backup.  Server 
backups.


    

    
Is it all of the data, is it the subset of the data that's at the remote 
sites?I'd plan to back each server up to its local location and periodically 
replicate. I'd replicate bidirectionally between the Main and Cross-Town 
locations and replicate from the Out-of-State back to the Main location. The 
plan is to only backup what's changed since the last backup. Most of the backup 
solutions I've looked at have utilities to compress the incremental backups 
into fewer files to reduce the total number of files.
    



  

    
You have 3tb available in each location, is that 3tb you could backup to, or 
are you saying it's 3tb of potential source data in each location?Just 
mentioning that to say my budget does not need to cover additional storage 
space.
    


  

    
Are the servers file servers, Exchange servers, SQL servers?  If so, what is 
the data split?No Exchange but we do use MySQL which I run data dumps on daily.

    

  

    
What do you do now for backup?Arcserve using disk-to-disk-to-tape.

    

  

    
Generally, I'd suggest moving to d2d2t but use source side dedupe and 
technologies like synthetic fulls to cut down your backup window.  Personally 
I'm still a fan of tape for the "stick it in a safe" factor, tape libraries 
(kind of) solve the "forgot   to change the tape" thing, and if you're doing 
d2d2t having a tape in a library is less important as your backups will still 
run. I don't really have any archival requirements. My main concerns are   
being able to quickly restore downed servers, reduce or eliminate the   backup 
window and reduce or eliminate the use of tapes and depending on   people at 
the remote site to put the right tape in, if they remember to   do it at all.



    
  

    
  
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From: Bob Hartung [[email protected]]
  Sent: 17 November 2011 6:20 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Backup Software
  
    
  
We have 3 locations with 10 servers
  

  Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers
         |                                                      |
         |                                                      |
  Wireless Bridge                                        VPN
  (36Mb x 36MB)                                 (3MB x 384K)
         |                                                      |
         |                                                      |
  Cross-Town Location:                    Out-of-State Location:
  (1) Windows 2003 server                   (1) Windows 2003 server
         350 GB of Data                                250 GB of Data
    
  We already have NAS units at each location with at least 3 TB of available 
storage.
  
  Budget: $7500
  
  My intention with D2D is to have one full back with incremental backups so 
the backup window should be a non-issue. The incrementals can occur multiple 
times a day using VSS.
  
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  Bob Hartung
  Dir of I.T.
  Wisco Industries, Inc.
  736 Janesville St.
  Oregon, WI 53575
  Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
  Fax: (608) 835-7399
  e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
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  From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
  To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:18:12 -0600
  Subject: Re: Backup Software
  
  What's your budget, size of environment, and amount of data for backups on a 
daily/weekly basis?  

    
(One thing to look at, if you're a Microsoft shop, is 
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/system-center/data-protection-manager.aspx
 )
      
  
  

    
  
  
    
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     http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker    
     Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
  
        
      
  
  
  
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Bob Hartung <[email protected]> wrote:
      
I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a disk-to-disk 
solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We currently are doing 
disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm tired of people telling 
me they forgot   to put the next tape in.
  
  I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings on 
what's not so good.
  
  Thanks.
  
  ----------------------
  
  Bob Hartung
  Dir of I.T.
  Wisco Industries, Inc.
  736 Janesville St.
  Oregon, WI 53575
  Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
  Fax: (608) 835-7399
  e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com  


    

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