Commvault. Nice product, unless you actually want support that matters. They not only told me the wrong information during a critical restore which destroyed a weeks worth of data, they were unapologetic about it and refused to take responsibility for the actions of their support tech. Am I bitter about it 5 years later? Darn straight I am. I promised them I would continue to describe their horrific support and total lack of customer care for as long as they remained in business and I remained part of the IT community. And unlike them I keep my promise.
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Paul Hutchings <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Bob. I would suggest look at Commvault. I say that simple > because we used to use ArcServe (admittedly we are talking some time back) > and switched to it and I've never looked back. > > They do standard licensing and they also do a capacity license where you > license the amount of data you want to backup (frontend) and you can use > any mix of their agents to do it. > > The dedupe works really well and is source side so you really cut down > on the amount of data going over the pipe to your HQ. They also do some > rather funky synthetic full backups where you essentially do an initial > "proper" full backup, and from that point onwards you only ever run > incremental backups. > > The downside is that I think you're going to be pushing it at that > budget, but end of year/quarter and the likes means you may be able do > something - I would certainly be asking the question of a reseller. > > The bottom line is that dedupe and all the stuff to take away the > problems you're having isn't cheap. > > Other vendors I'd look at would be HP Data Protector, DPM (no dedupe but > seems to fit very well in an MS shop), and if I were going out today > looking at backup software, I'd be really tempted to find out something > about Unitrends - they have some interesting looking pricing models. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bob Hartung [[email protected]] > *Sent:* 17 November 2011 7:28 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Backup Software > > See below... > > ---------------------- > > Bob Hartung > Dir of I.T. > Wisco Industries, Inc. > 736 Janesville St. > Oregon, WI 53575 > Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 > Fax: (608) 835-7399 > e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]] > *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected] > ] > *Sent:* Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0600 > *Subject:* RE: Backup Software > > With respect, I'm still not clear what you're looking to backup. > > Server backups. > > > Is it all of the data, is it the subset of the data that's at the remote > sites? > > I'd plan to back each server up to its local location and periodically > replicate. I'd replicate bidirectionally between the Main and Cross-Town > locations and replicate from the Out-of-State back to the Main location. > The plan is to only backup what's changed since the last backup. Most of > the backup solutions I've looked at have utilities to compress the > incremental backups into fewer files to reduce the total number of files. > > > You have 3tb available in each location, is that 3tb you could backup > to, or are you saying it's 3tb of potential source data in each location? > > Just mentioning that to say my budget does not need to cover additional > storage space. > > > Are the servers file servers, Exchange servers, SQL servers? If so, > what is the data split? > > No Exchange but we do use MySQL which I run data dumps on daily. > > > What do you do now for backup? > > Arcserve using disk-to-disk-to-tape. > > > Generally, I'd suggest moving to d2d2t but use source side dedupe and > technologies like synthetic fulls to cut down your backup window. > Personally I'm still a fan of tape for the "stick it in a safe" factor, > tape libraries (kind of) solve the "forgot to change the tape" thing, and > if you're doing d2d2t having a tape in a library is less important as your > backups will still run. > > I don't really have any archival requirements. My main concerns are being > able to quickly restore downed servers, reduce or eliminate the backup > window and reduce or eliminate the use of tapes and depending on people at > the remote site to put the right tape in, if they remember to do it at all. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bob Hartung [[email protected]] > *Sent:* 17 November 2011 6:20 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Backup Software > > We have 3 locations with 10 servers > > Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers > | | > | | > Wireless Bridge VPN > (36Mb x 36MB) (3MB x 384K) > | | > | | > Cross-Town Location: Out-of-State Location: > (1) Windows 2003 server (1) Windows 2003 server > 350 GB of Data 250 GB of Data > > We already have NAS units at each location with at least 3 TB of available > storage. > > Budget: $7500 > > My intention with D2D is to have one full back with incremental backups so > the backup window should be a non-issue. The incrementals can occur > multiple times a day using VSS. > > ---------------------- > > Bob Hartung > Dir of I.T. > Wisco Industries, Inc. > 736 Janesville St. > Oregon, WI 53575 > Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 > Fax: (608) 835-7399 > e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] > *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected] > ] > *Sent:* Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:18:12 -0600 > *Subject:* Re: Backup Software > > What's your budget, size of environment, and amount of data for backups on > a daily/weekly basis? > > (One thing to look at, if you're a Microsoft shop, is > http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/system-center/data-protection-manager.aspx > ) > > ** > > *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of > Technology for the SMB market… > > * > > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Bob Hartung <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ** >> I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a >> disk-to-disk solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We >> currently are doing disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm >> tired of people telling me they forgot to put the next tape in. >> >> I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings >> on what's not so good. >> >> Thanks. >> >> ---------------------- >> >> Bob Hartung >> Dir of I.T. >> Wisco Industries, Inc. >> 736 Janesville St. >> Oregon, WI 53575 >> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 >> Fax: (608) 835-7399 >> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ------------------------------ > *MIRA Ltd* > > Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England > Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 > VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use > of the intended recipient. 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