Seems to me like a LOT of the issues then were timing. Didn't XP release like the day after most folks starting getting "comfortable" with 2K? I didn't really like 2000. Had too much NT for me, but that's just me. I think I remember a lot of ANGST back then about MS cranking out OS's simply to build revenue.
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? Alright then. I just think you'll find you're in the minority of people who think 2000 wasn't good or great. As an aside, I remember when XP came out, people called it Windows Legos edition. People moved to XP because MS stopped updating 2000 and it wasn't a bad upgrade, mainly a change in look and feel, unlike Vista, which created all kinds of headaches much beyond look and feel. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:19 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Got it in one, I don't. It's like the fact I hate VW Golfs, they may have loads of things people can reel off that are great, but I still can't stand them. Anyway, I put "not so good" because aside from the fact I didn't like it, it was quickly superseded by 2003/XP. And putting AD as a feature really only applies to those running domains. I was speaking merely to a perception of it for "how people found it to use". And if that Metro-abortion is anything to go by, I'll hate that too. But I'll reserve judgement till after I get a chance to play with it and let my initial "where have things moved to" frustration pass by. Besides, moving on, I've said all I want to about this, it's all just my opinion, etc. , etc. On 8 March 2012 16:12, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Well now you can have mine weather you want them or not: - Vastly improved GUI (bye bye ProgMan & FileMan) - Plug-N-Play - Power Management (you can finally use this thing on a laptop) - AD - MMC - EFS - Dynamic Disks - Fat32 support - USB support - UDF support (DVDs!) - WFP - WMI - WDM introduced (Finally Win2K device driver development became an equal citizen for developers) - Quotas -Legit DirectX - WSH - Group Policy -Offline Files -RDP/Terminal services in base edition -DFS While each new version of Windows has a laundry-list of new features, and there are a bunch of other ones in Win2K I didn't list (MSMQ, etc...), that subset I just listed are ones that made a significant tangible difference in the experience to me.... Major improvements. And the thing was pretty darn fast and stable. Heck I ran betas 1-3 for a year or better before release and they were pretty rock solid. I'd argue Win2K may have been the single most significant release since NT was born. -sc From: Rankin, James R [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? I thought 2K was sh!t. I've had everyone else's thoughts on this already though. But I still hate it. :-) ---Blackberried ________________________________ From: "Steven M. Caesare" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:40:08 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? > 2000 not so good Wait, what? -sc From: James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? Maybe everyone's just pensive because Microsoft have a habit of following good OSes with bad. NT4 good - 2000 not so good - XP/2003 good - Vista/Server 2008 pants - 7/Server 2008 R2 good - 8 ? On 5 March 2012 20:00, John Hornbuckle <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: As an enterprise, I'm very concerned about the learning curve, too. But at some point, you have to finally break away from the past even if it involves a steep learning curve. The jump from DOS to Win3x required quite a bit of retraining, as did the jump from Win3x to Win95. Both of those were fairly radical moves, and things have stayed relatively static since Win95 with the old familiar Start button in the lower-left corner. Maybe it's time for a big shift. John From: Dan Bartley [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? I have to say my initial reaction is good for tabs. Like John, I can't wait to see some of the new tablets. As for Enterprise, I don't see Win8 making its mark if it stays the current course. In fact I have a feeling it will go the way of Vista in the Enterprise. It is too limiting and non-intuitive. It requires a complete retraining for users and very few IT people have the time for that. The CP also lacks some key domain support at the moment, such as in the printer and file sharing areas, so maybe next version I will change my mind. Then again, they really ditched the enterprise in Windows Phone in my opinion, so maybe they won't improve on that. 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