I agree with that. I was focusing on it as an OS used in a professional environment where NT or 2K had already been selected, which was my experience back in the day.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>wrote: > The move to XP was for many people driven by it was the “unification” > version where MS no longer developed the Win9x line.**** > > ** ** > > XP was fine, but IMO it did more to fill any gaps the 9x crowd was needing > than it did introduce tangible beneficial change to the NT-lineage > predecessor.**** > > ** ** > > -sc**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:33 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** > > ** ** > > Alright then. I just think you'll find you're in the minority of people > who think 2000 wasn't good or great. **** > > **** > > As an aside, I remember when XP came out, people called it Windows Legos > edition. People moved to XP because MS stopped updating 2000 and it wasn't > a bad upgrade, mainly a change in look and feel, unlike Vista, which > created all kinds of headaches much beyond look and feel.**** > > **** > > > > **** > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:19 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > Got it in one, I don't. It's like the fact I hate VW Golfs, they may have > loads of things people can reel off that are great, but I still can't stand > them. > > Anyway, I put "not so good" because aside from the fact I didn't like it, > it was quickly superseded by 2003/XP. And putting AD as a feature really > only applies to those running domains. I was speaking merely to a > perception of it for "how people found it to use". > > And if that Metro-abortion is anything to go by, I'll hate that too. But > I'll reserve judgement till after I get a chance to play with it and let my > initial "where have things moved to" frustration pass by. > > Besides, moving on, I've said all I want to about this, it's all just my > opinion, etc. , etc. **** > > ** ** > > On 8 March 2012 16:12, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]> wrote:**** > > Well now you can have mine weather you want them or not:**** > > **** > > - Vastly improved GUI (bye bye ProgMan & FileMan)**** > > - Plug-N-Play**** > > - Power Management (you can finally use this thing on a laptop)**** > > - AD**** > > - MMC**** > > - EFS**** > > - Dynamic Disks**** > > - Fat32 support**** > > - USB support**** > > - UDF support (DVDs!)**** > > - WFP**** > > - WMI**** > > - WDM introduced (Finally Win2K device driver development became an equal > citizen for developers)**** > > - Quotas**** > > -Legit DirectX**** > > - WSH**** > > - Group Policy**** > > -Offline Files**** > > -RDP/Terminal services in base edition**** > > -DFS**** > > **** > > **** > > While each new version of Windows has a laundry-list of new features, and > there are a bunch of other ones in Win2K I didn’t list (MSMQ, etc…), that > subset I just listed are ones that made a significant tangible difference > in the experience to me…. Major improvements.**** > > **** > > And the thing was pretty darn fast and stable. Heck I ran betas 1-3 for a > year or better before release and they were pretty rock solid.**** > > **** > > I’d argue Win2K may have been the single most significant release since NT > was born.**** > > **** > > -sc**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:46 AM**** > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** > > **** > > I thought 2K was sh!t. I've had everyone else's thoughts on this already > though. But I still hate it. :-)**** > > ---Blackberried**** > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steven M. Caesare" <[email protected]> **** > > *Date: *Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:40:08 -0500**** > > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>**** > > *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > >**** > > *Subject: *RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** > > **** > > > 2000 not so good**** > > **** > > Wait, what?**** > > **** > > -sc**** > > **** > > *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 3:22 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** > > **** > > Maybe everyone's just pensive because Microsoft have a habit of following > good OSes with bad. NT4 good - 2000 not so good - XP/2003 good - > Vista/Server 2008 pants - 7/Server 2008 R2 good - 8 ?**** > > On 5 March 2012 20:00, John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > As an enterprise, I’m very concerned about the learning curve, too.**** > > **** > > But at some point, you have to finally break away from the past even if it > involves a steep learning curve. The jump from DOS to Win3x required quite > a bit of retraining, as did the jump from Win3x to Win95. Both of those > were fairly radical moves, and things have stayed relatively static since > Win95 with the old familiar Start button in the lower-left corner.**** > > **** > > Maybe it’s time for a big shift.**** > > **** > > **** > > John**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Dan Bartley [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 2:46 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** > > **** > > I have to say my initial reaction is good for tabs. Like John, I can’t > wait to see some of the new tablets. **** > > **** > > As for Enterprise, I don’t see Win8 making its mark if it stays the > current course. In fact I have a feeling it will go the way of Vista in the > Enterprise. It is too limiting and non-intuitive. It requires a complete > retraining for users and very few IT people have the time for that. The CP > also lacks some key domain support at the moment, such as in the printer > and file sharing areas, so maybe next version I will change my mind. Then > again, they really ditched the enterprise in Windows Phone in my opinion, > so maybe they won’t improve on that.**** > > **** > > Best Regards, > > Dan Bartley**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > > > > -- > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' 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