I may be off by a digit. Might be 256 MB of RAM, for some reason 128 MB is sticking in my mind.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote: > I remember way back then. I was the sole person supporting a school with > ~600 computers. I went with NT for all teacher workstations for one simple > reason: stability. Windows 95 and 98 were horribly unstable. NT saved me > a ton of grief, at the cost of some grief in other areas, plug and play, > usb drives weren't all that common, but numerous different devices were > starting to become an issue. Win2k came out and saved me considerable > headaches. > > Win2k and NT ran on roughly the same footprint, and in my experience Win2K > outperformed NT at the same RAM levels (machines I spec'ed back in 1999 had > 128 MB of RAM). XP had issues with that small amount of RAM. > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Jeff Brown <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Seems to me like a LOT of the issues then were timing. Didn’t XP >> release like the day after most folks starting getting “comfortable” with >> 2K? I didn’t really like 2000. Had too much NT for me, but that’s just >> me. I think I remember a lot of ANGST back then about MS cranking out OS’s >> simply to build revenue.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:33 AM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Alright then. I just think you'll find you're in the minority of people >> who think 2000 wasn't good or great. **** >> >> **** >> >> As an aside, I remember when XP came out, people called it Windows Legos >> edition. People moved to XP because MS stopped updating 2000 and it wasn't >> a bad upgrade, mainly a change in look and feel, unlike Vista, which >> created all kinds of headaches much beyond look and feel.**** >> >> **** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:19 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> Got it in one, I don't. It's like the fact I hate VW Golfs, they may have >> loads of things people can reel off that are great, but I still can't stand >> them. >> >> Anyway, I put "not so good" because aside from the fact I didn't like it, >> it was quickly superseded by 2003/XP. And putting AD as a feature really >> only applies to those running domains. I was speaking merely to a >> perception of it for "how people found it to use". >> >> And if that Metro-abortion is anything to go by, I'll hate that too. But >> I'll reserve judgement till after I get a chance to play with it and let my >> initial "where have things moved to" frustration pass by. >> >> Besides, moving on, I've said all I want to about this, it's all just my >> opinion, etc. , etc. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> On 8 March 2012 16:12, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]> wrote:*** >> * >> >> Well now you can have mine weather you want them or not:**** >> >> **** >> >> - Vastly improved GUI (bye bye ProgMan & FileMan)**** >> >> - Plug-N-Play**** >> >> - Power Management (you can finally use this thing on a laptop)**** >> >> - AD**** >> >> - MMC**** >> >> - EFS**** >> >> - Dynamic Disks**** >> >> - Fat32 support**** >> >> - USB support**** >> >> - UDF support (DVDs!)**** >> >> - WFP**** >> >> - WMI**** >> >> - WDM introduced (Finally Win2K device driver development became an equal >> citizen for developers)**** >> >> - Quotas**** >> >> -Legit DirectX**** >> >> - WSH**** >> >> - Group Policy**** >> >> -Offline Files**** >> >> -RDP/Terminal services in base edition**** >> >> -DFS**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> While each new version of Windows has a laundry-list of new features, and >> there are a bunch of other ones in Win2K I didn’t list (MSMQ, etc…), that >> subset I just listed are ones that made a significant tangible difference >> in the experience to me…. Major improvements.**** >> >> **** >> >> And the thing was pretty darn fast and stable. Heck I ran betas 1-3 for a >> year or better before release and they were pretty rock solid.**** >> >> **** >> >> I’d argue Win2K may have been the single most significant release since >> NT was born.**** >> >> **** >> >> -sc**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:46 AM**** >> >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> **** >> >> I thought 2K was sh!t. I've had everyone else's thoughts on this already >> though. But I still hate it. :-)**** >> >> ---Blackberried**** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Steven M. Caesare" <[email protected]> **** >> >> *Date: *Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:40:08 -0500**** >> >> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>**** >> >> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" < >> [email protected]>**** >> >> *Subject: *RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> **** >> >> > 2000 not so good**** >> >> **** >> >> Wait, what?**** >> >> **** >> >> -sc**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 3:22 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> **** >> >> Maybe everyone's just pensive because Microsoft have a habit of following >> good OSes with bad. NT4 good - 2000 not so good - XP/2003 good - >> Vista/Server 2008 pants - 7/Server 2008 R2 good - 8 ?**** >> >> On 5 March 2012 20:00, John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> As an enterprise, I’m very concerned about the learning curve, too.**** >> >> **** >> >> But at some point, you have to finally break away from the past even if >> it involves a steep learning curve. The jump from DOS to Win3x required >> quite a bit of retraining, as did the jump from Win3x to Win95. Both of >> those were fairly radical moves, and things have stayed relatively static >> since Win95 with the old familiar Start button in the lower-left corner.* >> *** >> >> **** >> >> Maybe it’s time for a big shift.**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> John**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Dan Bartley [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 2:46 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?**** >> >> **** >> >> I have to say my initial reaction is good for tabs. Like John, I can’t >> wait to see some of the new tablets. **** >> >> **** >> >> As for Enterprise, I don’t see Win8 making its mark if it stays the >> current course. In fact I have a feeling it will go the way of Vista in the >> Enterprise. It is too limiting and non-intuitive. It requires a complete >> retraining for users and very few IT people have the time for that. 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