I am thinking (hoping) he missed a "-" in there... (2-4 yrs old)
? From: James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PC lifecycle? PCs from 1988? Holy cow On 13 March 2012 14:42, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: That's is how I sold my client on an SBS swing to new hardware, along the lines of: "if your average employee compensation is xx/hr and they are waiting nn mins/day for the machine to boot and nn/mins/day while the server is processing something the cost is $$/employee/day. If new hardware/software cuts the total employee "wait" time by nn mins/day then multiplying that by xx/hr you gain $$/day of production. My client wanted to upgrade 10 of their 17 PC's (their PC's are 24yrs old) to speed things up -but it was their SBS server that was getting flattened (SATA drives running Exchange and SQL!), I said if they spent that money on a new server instead (old was is a PE840) the'd see ROI in under six months. Yesterday was their first day on the their new server and one maintenance job they would run at the end of the day went from 20 minutes to just under 5. That alone is 1hr 15mins/week gained for that one employee. ~$100/mo saved right there. If employee's are idle waiting for the system to do something, that's generally time they are not adding value. Dave From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PC lifecycle? You have to work the numbers. How much downtime/lost productivity. It's dependent on the situation. As I said, our computers are in the hands of revenue producers. When they're down, they aren't billing their time. They either have to make it up (morale issue) or it is lost productivity (money issue). At current billing rates, it doesn't take long for an hour or two of downtime to justify some additional upfront expense. If these are office drones, it's a bit harder to justify it from a cost-benefit perspective. YMMV. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Harry Singh <[email protected]> wrote: To those who interface directly with your CFO/CEO or are the decision maker, what reasoning/justification did you provide in order to shorten the length of the refresh? I'm at a place that looks to refresh close to 5-6 years, and that's even a fight sometimes. I know there is a wide range of IT Pros here so curious to see if any actually had to "fight" for a 3-4 year refresh or you've been lucky enough to work for a company which pursues an aggressive refresh policy. Also, those that buy a refurb with 3 yr maintenance -- what's your target margin of savings compared against buying a new machine? In other words, if a new machine would cost $800 what's your target price for a refurb? On Monday, March 12, 2012, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote: > My customers vary from 3-5, err'ing to the left. 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