What kind of disk subsystem did you go with for the new server?  We are waiting 
on parts for a new SBS to run time matters 11 ent for a small office. 

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On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:42 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:

> That’s is how I sold my client on an SBS swing to new hardware, along the 
> lines of:
> “if your average employee compensation is xx/hr  and they are waiting nn 
> mins/day for the machine to boot and nn/mins/day while the server is 
> processing something the cost is $$/employee/day. If new hardware/software 
> cuts the total employee “wait” time by nn mins/day then multiplying that by 
> xx/hr you gain $$/day of production.
>  
> My client wanted to upgrade 10 of their 17 PC’s (their PC’s are 24yrs old) to 
> speed things up –but it was their SBS server that was getting flattened (SATA 
> drives running Exchange and SQL!), I said if they spent that money on a new 
> server instead (old was is a PE840) the’d see ROI in under six months.
>  
> Yesterday was their first day on the their new server and one maintenance job 
> they would run at the end of the day went from 20 minutes to just under 5. 
> That alone is 1hr 15mins/week gained  for that one employee. ~$100/mo saved 
> right there.
>  
> If employee’s are idle waiting for the system to do something, that’s 
> generally time they are not adding value.
>  
> Dave
>  
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:39 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: PC lifecycle?
>  
> You have to work the numbers.  How much downtime/lost productivity.  It's 
> dependent on the situation.  As I said, our computers are in the hands of 
> revenue producers.  When they're down, they aren't billing their time.  They 
> either have to make it up (morale issue) or it is lost productivity (money 
> issue).  At current billing rates, it doesn't take long for an hour or two of 
> downtime to justify some additional upfront expense.  If these are office 
> drones, it's a bit harder to justify it from a cost-benefit perspective.
>  
> YMMV.
> 
>  
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Harry Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> To those who interface directly with your CFO/CEO or are the decision maker, 
> what reasoning/justification did you provide in order to shorten the length 
> of the refresh? I'm at a place that looks to refresh close to 5-6 years, and 
> that's even  a fight sometimes. I know there is a wide range of IT Pros here 
> so curious to see if any actually had to "fight" for a 3-4 year refresh or 
> you've been lucky enough to work for a company which pursues an aggressive 
> refresh policy. 
> 
> Also, those that buy a refurb with 3 yr maintenance -- what's your target 
> margin of savings compared against buying a new machine? In other words, if a 
> new machine would cost $800 what's your target price for a refurb?
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 12, 2012, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote:
> > My customers vary from 3-5, err’ing to the left. Whatever the choice, they 
> > generally have maintenance on the hardware.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian Desmond
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> >  
> >
> > w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132
> >
> >  
> >
> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:13 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: PC lifecycle?
> >
> >  
> >
> > How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations?
> >
> > 4? 5? 6 years?
> >
> > My oldest are a few from 2006.
> >
> > I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if 
> > heavy user/issues).
> >
> > I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get 
> > some idea as to what others do.
> >
> > Thx
> >
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