----- Original Message ----- From: David Lum > (their PC's are 24yrs old) I'm sure this is a typo... If not. Whoa... Still running on those serial terminals, eh? Sm:)e.
> If employee's are idle waiting for the system to do something, that's > generally time they are not adding value. If an employee is idle waiting for the system to do something, that's generally when I hope they start to do something else productive. If it takes 20 minutes or 5, there's something they can do. If the difference from 20 minutes to 5 means a sale, or more sales, it's worth it. If it's just "slower" and thus people have to better manage their time, I don't see the big difference. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:42:20 -0700 Subject: RE: PC lifecycle? > That's is how I sold my client on an SBS swing to new hardware, along the > lines of: > "if your average employee compensation is xx/hr and they are waiting nn > mins/day for the machine to boot and nn/mins/day while the server is > processing something the cost is $$/employee/day. If new hardware/software > cuts the total employee "wait" time by nn mins/day then multiplying that by > xx/hr you gain $$/day of production. > > My client wanted to upgrade 10 of their 17 PC's (their PC's are 24yrs old) > to speed things up -but it was their SBS server that was getting flattened > (SATA drives running Exchange and SQL!), I said if they spent that money on > a new server instead (old was is a PE840) the'd see ROI in under six months. > > Yesterday was their first day on the their new server and one maintenance > job they would run at the end of the day went from 20 minutes to just under > 5. That alone is 1hr 15mins/week gained for that one employee. ~$100/mo > saved right there. > > If employee's are idle waiting for the system to do something, that's > generally time they are not adding value. > > Dave > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:39 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: PC lifecycle? > > You have to work the numbers. How much downtime/lost productivity. It's > dependent on the situation. As I said, our computers are in the hands of > revenue producers. When they're down, they aren't billing their time. They > either have to make it up (morale issue) or it is lost productivity (money > issue). At current billing rates, it doesn't take long for an hour or two > of downtime to justify some additional upfront expense. If these are office > drones, it's a bit harder to justify it from a cost-benefit perspective. > > YMMV. > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Harry Singh > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > To those who interface directly with your CFO/CEO or are the decision maker, > what reasoning/justification did you provide in order to shorten the length > of the refresh? I'm at a place that looks to refresh close to 5-6 years, and > that's even a fight sometimes. I know there is a wide range of IT Pros here > so curious to see if any actually had to "fight" for a 3-4 year refresh or > you've been lucky enough to work for a company which pursues an aggressive > refresh policy. > > Also, those that buy a refurb with 3 yr maintenance -- what's your target > margin of savings compared against buying a new machine? In other words, if > a new machine would cost $800 what's your target price for a refurb? > > > On Monday, March 12, 2012, Brian Desmond > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > My customers vary from 3-5, err'ing to the left. Whatever the choice, they > generally have maintenance on the hardware. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brian Desmond > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > > > w - 312.625.1438<tel:312.625.1438> | c - 312.731.3132<tel:312.731.3132> > > > > > > > > From: David Mazzaccaro > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:13 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: PC lifecycle? > > > > > > > > How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? > > > > 4? 5? 6 years? > > > > My oldest are a few from 2006. > > > > I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if > heavy user/issues). > > > > I know it will depend on the business environment...I'm just trying to get > some idea as to what others do. > > > > Thx > > > > . > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
