Roaming profiles can be set via GPO (I think, the TS Profile definitely can)
The H: drive would be set by a Group Policy Preference drive mapping, I should think On 13 March 2012 16:31, Glen Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been following this thread very closely as we've experienced > extremely slow logins and yes we use the roaming profile and home directory > settings on the profile tab in ADU&C. > Does anyone know what the statement, "When a user has a roaming user > profile or a home directory for logon purposes", actually means? > Specifically the part, for logon purposes? > Does it just mean that if the user has a home directory or profile defined > or something totally different? > Also, what is the recommended way to do home directory mapping and > profiles, if not in the profile tab? > From some of the links, I'm guessing a group policy preference, but not > sure. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Free, Bob [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:11 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: (homedrive) > > Accept-Language: en-US > Content-Language: en-US > X-MS-Has-Attach: > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > x-originating-ip: [10.210.3.203] > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="_000_748CF90EABA4224ABF3D957402E1271515146A84EXCHMBFF123Util_" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-CFilter-Loop: Forwarded > > --_000_748CF90EABA4224ABF3D957402E1271515146A84EXCHMBFF123Util_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Better link than the one from MSDN > > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758898(v=3Dws.10).aspx > > > > Fast Logon Optimization is always off during logon under the following > cond= > itions: > > > > When a user *first* logs on to a computer. (the MSDN link leaves out the > o= perative word...doh) > > > > > > When a user has a roaming user profile or a home directory for logon > purpos= es. > > > > > > When a user has synchronous logon scripts. > > > From: Free, Bob > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:39 AM > To: 'NT System Admin Issues' > Subject: RE: (homedrive) > > When he told us about it, I figured out the reg keys associated with logon > = optimization from something Darren had blogged and tested it and sure > enoug= h, when I removed the logon script and home folder in ADUC and > rebooted 2x = the key changed state, my logon was faster and without the > "applying your s= ettings" screen or whatever it is on XP. This guy knew > his stuff about slo= w logons and gave us a whirlwind tour of xperf from > another customer engage= ment. Very cool tool. Unbelievable amount of > detail about startup is availa= ble from it. > > I did a cursory search back then for something more authoritative than > "thi= s PFE told me" and found this > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windo= > ws/desktop/aa374350(v=3Dvs.85).aspx > > I haven't had time to visit it further but one of our very sharp desktop > gu= ys is. > > The above is all null and void if you are planning on blaming AD for the > mi= sbehavior of Citrix :-p > > > From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto: > webster@carlw= > ebster.com]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:03 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: (homedrive) > > Bob, > > I am giving a Geek Speak session at Citrix Synergy in May. My GoogleFu > isn= 't turning up anything on this. I would like to add this to my "It's > Not C= itrix, It's Your !@#$%^& AD" talk. (well I was told I can't use > that title= but that is what I call it. Actually I think that was MBS' > idea for my se= ssion title.) > > Do you have a reference for this I could link to in my talk or maybe even > s= end me a LMGTFY link? > > Thanks > > > Carl Webster > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com > > From: Free, Bob [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> > Subject: RE: (homedrive) > > We had a PSS PFE onsite recently for an AD engagement and we were > discussin= g slow boots during a break in the action and he brought up > something I had= never heard of before. > > I was always under the assumption that we had what is known as Fast Logon > O= ptimization on our XP systems that allows GPOs to process asynchronously > in= the background. > > He told us that it is disabled in our environment because we use the > profil= e settings to map homeDir and specify login script. > > Basically anything that is set on the Profile tab in ADUC is considered > leg= acy NT behavior and disables logon optimization. I had heard before > that ro= aming profiles or software installation policies disabled it but > this was n= ews to me. 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(the > M= SDN link leaves out the operative word…doh)<o:p></o:p></p> <p > class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">When a user has a roaming user profile or a home > = directory for logon purposes. > <o:p></o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">When a user has synchronous logon > scripts.<o:p></= o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <div> > <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in > = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span > style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= > ;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span > style=3D"font-s= > ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Free, > Bo= b <br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:39 AM<br> <b>To:</b> 'NT > System Admin Issues'<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: > (homedrive)<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p > class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">When he told us about > = it, I figured out the reg keys associated with logon optimization from > some= thing Darren had blogged and tested it and sure enough, when I > removed the = logon script and home folder in ADUC and rebooted 2x the key > changed state, my logon was faster and without the= “applying your > settings” screen or whatever it is on XP. = This guy knew his > stuff about slow logons and gave us a whirlwind tour of = xperf from > another customer engagement. Very cool tool. Unbelievable amount of detail > about startup is available from it.<o:= > p></o:p></span></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I did a cursory > search= back then for something more authoritative than “this PFE > told me= 221; and found this <a href=3D" > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa374350= > (v=3Dvs.85).aspx"> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa374350(v=3Dvs.85)= > .aspx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I haven’t had > ti= me to visit it further but one of our very sharp desktop guys > is.<o:p></o:p= > ></span></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The above is all null > = and void if you are planning on blaming AD for the misbehavior of Citrix > :-= p<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <div> > <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in > = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span > style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= > ;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span > style=3D"font-s= > ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Webster > <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]";>[mailto: > webster@carlweb= > ster.com]</a> > <br> > <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:03 AM<br> <b>To:</b> NT System > Admin Issues<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: (homedrive)<o:p></o:p></span></p> > </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D">Bob,<o:p></o:p></span>= > </p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I am giving a Geek > Spe= ak session at Citrix Synergy in May. My GoogleFu isn’t > turning = up anything on this. I would like to add this to my > “It’s= Not Citrix, It’s Your !@#$%^& AD” > talk. (well I was = told I can’t use that title but that is > what I call it. Actually I think that was= MBS’ idea for my > session title.)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Do you have a > referenc= e for this I could link to in my talk or maybe even send me a > LMGTFY link?<= o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <div> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Carl Webster<br> > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional<br> <a href=3D" > http://www.CarlWebster.com"; target=3D"_blank">http://www.CarlWeb= > ster.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> > </div> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= > n></p> > <div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in > = 4.0pt"> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF > 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span > style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= > ;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span > style=3D"font-s= > ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Free, > Bo= b <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]";>[mailto:[email protected]]</a> > <br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: (homedrive)<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p > class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">We had a PSS PFE onsite > = recently for an AD engagement and we were discussing slow boots during a > br= eak in the action and he brought up something I had never heard of > before.<= o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span>= > </p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I was always under the > a= ssumption that we had what is known as Fast Logon Optimization on our XP > sy= stems that allows GPOs to process asynchronously in the > background.<o:p></o= :p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span>= > </p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">He told us that it is > di= sabled in our environment because we use the profile settings to map > homeDi= r and specify login script. > <o:p></o:p></span></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span > style=3D"color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span>= > </p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Basically anything that > = is set on the Profile tab in ADUC is considered legacy NT behavior and > disa= bles logon optimization. I had heard before that roaming profiles or > softwa= re installation policies disabled it but this was news to me. I > played around with my account on an old XP box = and it rang true, never > got around to looking into it further or on WIN7.<o= :p></o:p></span></p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span>= > </p> > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">FWIW, YMMV </span><span > = style=3D"font-family:Wingdings;color:black">J</span><span > style=3D"color:bl= ack"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p>~ Finally, > powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~<br> ~ <<a > href=3D"http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/"= > >http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/</a>> > >~<= > br> > <br> > ---<br> > To manage subscriptions click here: <a href=3D" > http://lyris.sunbelt-softwar= > e.com/read/my_forums/"> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/</a><br> > or send an email to <a href=3D"mailto: > [email protected]= > ">[email protected]</a><br> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin<o:p></o:p></p> </div> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ <BR> ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ <BR> > > <BR> > --- > <BR> > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > <BR> > or send an email to [email protected] > <BR> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > <BR> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > <BR> > > <BR> > --- > <BR> > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > <BR> > or send an email to [email protected] > <BR> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ <BR> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ <BR> <BR> --- <BR> To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ <BR> or send an email to [email protected] <BR> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin </BODY> > </html> > > --_000_748CF90EABA4224ABF3D957402E1271515146A84EXCHMBFF123Util_-- > > > > -- "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' 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