DOH! I was looking at the wrong part....more than double the price of the
CORRECT one @ $125 each.

My mistake....I'm under the weather, and was in a hurry to boot...

Thanks,

Jonathan

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> wrote:

> Using the link I sent, 3 new HP 36GB 15K drives shipped for next morning
> 10:30 AM delivery to Virginia are $428.21 all in.
>
> Don't really know where the $1,000 price tag is coming from unless the
> drives specified above won't work for some reason.
>
> If your management won't spring for new ones, I've got a room full of them
> (10K) that I'll send for $100 bucks a piece.  Ground shipping included.  :)
>
> Seriously, explain the difference between $1,000 bucks now and all the
> time later required to rebuild the thing from backups.
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> and.....short of buying new drives?
>>
>> Not so sure mgmt will go for spending $1,000 on a 10 year old server that
>> is slated for decom....
>>
>> (yeah, I know, I know)...
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:42 PM, William Robbins <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>>  - Will
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 13:16, Richard Stovall <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Order 3 *new* drives, have them overnighted, then proceed with your
>>>> original plan.
>>>>
>>>> http://discountechnology.com/Products/HP-Compaq-SCSI-Hard-Drives
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not sure where to begin on this - I guess it is possible that I've got
>>>>> two new (refurbed) drives that are bad, but I'm leaning toward it being a
>>>>> fluke or known bug or compatibility issue..... I've Googled till I'm blue
>>>>> in the face, and I've searched the archives of this list going back more
>>>>> than a year. We can't retire this server just yet, and I can't P2V it 
>>>>> right
>>>>> now. We're looking to decommission it this year, and replace it with newer
>>>>> hardware, so for the moment, I'm stuck with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I inherited it....it long predated my existence at this company.
>>>>> I had a drive failure in the RAID1, so I bought two reburb units from a
>>>>> major channel partner (we are a VAR). The hope was to replace one drive,
>>>>> let it rebuild, then add the second drive as a hot spare so I wouldn't be
>>>>> in this bind again. Alas, BOTH of the refurb drives register in the System
>>>>> Management Homepage with a status of Predictive Failure, Replace Drive. I
>>>>> know I've read about false positives with S.M.A.R.T. Status under certain
>>>>> OS/Firmware/Driver/MS Update scenarios, but for the life of me I can't 
>>>>> find
>>>>> anything along those lines right now when I need it. Also, with this being
>>>>> a COMPAQ branded server, I'm not 100% certain of what I'm looking at on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> HP site, as everything referenced looks like a HP branded server. I wasn't
>>>>> dealing with HP at the time of the HP Compaq merger, and I never did
>>>>> anything with Compaq servers...
>>>>>
>>>>> I welcome any suggestions offered to get this unit functioning without
>>>>> drive array errors (if that is possible). Having the drive listed as being
>>>>> in a degraded state doesn't give me any warm fuzzies, and it is
>>>>> unfortunately a critical server, so I can't just say, "It's probably not
>>>>> really an issue." Of course, I can't be guaranteed that there is a valid
>>>>> backup of this server, and even if there is, getting it back online might
>>>>> be practically impossible, because like I said, it predates me
>>>>> significantly and the individuals who configured it are no longer with the
>>>>> organization and the software application is no longer supported. I do 
>>>>> have
>>>>> original media, but I'd rather not go that route if I don't have to....
>>>>>
>>>>> Configuration:
>>>>>
>>>>> Two 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI Hot Pluggable hard drives in a RAID 1
>>>>> configuration with no hot spare (like I said, I inherited it)
>>>>> Running Windows Server 2000 w/SP4 and all available updates
>>>>> BIOS Date is 04/02/01 - newest version appears to be 2002.12.18 (B)
>>>>> (23 Mar 2004), but the rev history does not show anything related to SCSI
>>>>> drives or controllers
>>>>> ROM Version from the System Management Homepage is 04/02/2001, Family
>>>>> 386P17, Type 03
>>>>> Storage Controller is listed as "Compaq Integrated Smart Array
>>>>> Controller"
>>>>> Storage Controller Driver Date/Version is 10/21/2002, 5.14.0.0 Latest
>>>>> version appears to be 5.14.0.0 (E) (13 Apr 2006) but rev notes don't 
>>>>> notate
>>>>> anything that would implicate a false positive for SMART failure
>>>>> Storage Controller Firmware version is 1.46A - looks like 1.50B dated
>>>>> 22 Oct 2002 is the latest, but can't find any rev notes that tell me what
>>>>> the fixes are between 1.46A and 1.50B
>>>>> Port 2 Drive 0 (listed as healthy) COMPAQ BF036863B5 has firmware
>>>>> version HPB4 and has service hours total of 63,040 hours - this
>>>>> appears to be the latest firmware for this drive per HP* Document ID:
>>>>> *c00776070
>>>>> Port 2 drive 1 (listed as "Predictive Failure/Replace Drive") COMPAQ
>>>>> BF0368A4CA has firmware version HPB5 and has service hours total of 19
>>>>> (yes, nineteen) hours - there is an update HPB5 (C) Dated 18 Jul 2007, but
>>>>> again, no details in the rev history
>>>>> Port 2 Drive 2 - New hot spare presently not inserted - (listed as
>>>>> "Predictive Failure/Replace Drive") COMPAQ BF03685A35 has firmware
>>>>> version HPB6 and has service hours total of 28,009 hours - there is
>>>>> an update HPB8 (C) Dated 18 Jul 2007, but again, no details in the rev
>>>>> history
>>>>> HP system Management Homepage version is 2.0.2.106, 2.1.10.186 (C) (29
>>>>> Jan 2008) is the latest one listed for this server/OS combination
>>>>> HP Array Configuration Utility is v 7.61.2.0, which appears to be the
>>>>> latest
>>>>> HP Array Diagnostic Utility is v 7.60.18.0, which appears to be the
>>>>> latest
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the only site I've found from HP that comes close to matching
>>>>> my server:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/swdHome/?sp4ts.oid=3292422
>>>>>
>>>>> It is for a HP ProLiant DL380 P1000-256KB 128MB Rack Server, and what
>>>>> I have is a Compaq ProLiant DL380 P733-256KB 128MB Rack Server...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
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