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From: Jonathan [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Compaq ProLiant DL380R01 S.M.A.R.T. Predictive failure

DOH! I was looking at the wrong part....more than double the price of the 
CORRECT one @ $125 each.

My mistake....I'm under the weather, and was in a hurry to boot...

Thanks,

Jonathan

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Richard Stovall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Using the link I sent, 3 new HP 36GB 15K drives shipped for next morning 10:30 
AM delivery to Virginia are $428.21 all in.

Don't really know where the $1,000 price tag is coming from unless the drives 
specified above won't work for some reason.

If your management won't spring for new ones, I've got a room full of them 
(10K) that I'll send for $100 bucks a piece.  Ground shipping included.  :)

Seriously, explain the difference between $1,000 bucks now and all the time 
later required to rebuild the thing from backups.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
and.....short of buying new drives?

Not so sure mgmt will go for spending $1,000 on a 10 year old server that is 
slated for decom....

(yeah, I know, I know)...

Jonathan


On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:42 PM, William Robbins 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Agreed.

 - Will

[X]



On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 13:16, Richard Stovall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Order 3 *new* drives, have them overnighted, then proceed with your original 
plan.

http://discountechnology.com/Products/HP-Compaq-SCSI-Hard-Drives


On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Not sure where to begin on this - I guess it is possible that I've got two new 
(refurbed) drives that are bad, but I'm leaning toward it being a fluke or 
known bug or compatibility issue..... I've Googled till I'm blue in the face, 
and I've searched the archives of this list going back more than a year. We 
can't retire this server just yet, and I can't P2V it right now. We're looking 
to decommission it this year, and replace it with newer hardware, so for the 
moment, I'm stuck with it.

Also, I inherited it....it long predated my existence at this company. I had a 
drive failure in the RAID1, so I bought two reburb units from a major channel 
partner (we are a VAR). The hope was to replace one drive, let it rebuild, then 
add the second drive as a hot spare so I wouldn't be in this bind again. Alas, 
BOTH of the refurb drives register in the System Management Homepage with a 
status of Predictive Failure, Replace Drive. I know I've read about false 
positives with S.M.A.R.T. Status under certain OS/Firmware/Driver/MS Update 
scenarios, but for the life of me I can't find anything along those lines right 
now when I need it. Also, with this being a COMPAQ branded server, I'm not 100% 
certain of what I'm looking at on the HP site, as everything referenced looks 
like a HP branded server. I wasn't dealing with HP at the time of the HP Compaq 
merger, and I never did anything with Compaq servers...

I welcome any suggestions offered to get this unit functioning without drive 
array errors (if that is possible). Having the drive listed as being in a 
degraded state doesn't give me any warm fuzzies, and it is unfortunately a 
critical server, so I can't just say, "It's probably not really an issue." Of 
course, I can't be guaranteed that there is a valid backup of this server, and 
even if there is, getting it back online might be practically impossible, 
because like I said, it predates me significantly and the individuals who 
configured it are no longer with the organization and the software application 
is no longer supported. I do have original media, but I'd rather not go that 
route if I don't have to....

Configuration:

Two 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI Hot Pluggable hard drives in a RAID 1 configuration 
with no hot spare (like I said, I inherited it)
Running Windows Server 2000 w/SP4 and all available updates
BIOS Date is 04/02/01 - newest version appears to be 2002.12.18 (B) (23 Mar 
2004), but the rev history does not show anything related to SCSI drives or 
controllers
ROM Version from the System Management Homepage is 04/02/2001, Family 386P17, 
Type 03
Storage Controller is listed as "Compaq Integrated Smart Array Controller"
Storage Controller Driver Date/Version is 10/21/2002, 5.14.0.0 Latest version 
appears to be 5.14.0.0 (E) (13 Apr 2006) but rev notes don't notate anything 
that would implicate a false positive for SMART failure
Storage Controller Firmware version is 1.46A - looks like 1.50B dated 22 Oct 
2002 is the latest, but can't find any rev notes that tell me what the fixes 
are between 1.46A and 1.50B
Port 2 Drive 0 (listed as healthy) COMPAQ BF036863B5 has firmware version HPB4 
and has service hours total of 63,040 hours - this appears to be the latest 
firmware for this drive per HP Document ID: c00776070
Port 2 drive 1 (listed as "Predictive Failure/Replace Drive") COMPAQ BF0368A4CA 
has firmware version HPB5 and has service hours total of 19 (yes, nineteen) 
hours - there is an update HPB5 (C) Dated 18 Jul 2007, but again, no details in 
the rev history
Port 2 Drive 2 - New hot spare presently not inserted - (listed as "Predictive 
Failure/Replace Drive") COMPAQ BF03685A35 has firmware version HPB6 and has 
service hours total of 28,009 hours - there is an update HPB8 (C) Dated 18 Jul 
2007, but again, no details in the rev history
HP system Management Homepage version is 2.0.2.106, 2.1.10.186 (C) (29 Jan 
2008) is the latest one listed for this server/OS combination
HP Array Configuration Utility is v 7.61.2.0, which appears to be the latest
HP Array Diagnostic Utility is v 7.60.18.0, which appears to be the latest

This is the only site I've found from HP that comes close to matching my server:

http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/swdHome/?sp4ts.oid=3292422

It is for a HP ProLiant DL380 P1000-256KB 128MB Rack Server, and what I have is 
a Compaq ProLiant DL380 P733-256KB 128MB Rack Server...

Thanks,

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