If not now, I'm guessing soon, with IPv6. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> wrote: > This whole discussion makes me wonder... > > Can you get a static ip on a wireless data plan? I've never heard of such a > thing, but my never having heard of it don't amount to a hill of beans in > this crazy world. > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:59 PM, James Hill <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You’re talking about download speeds there Ken and you are talking best >> case scenario (ie, in a Capital City when it isn’t overly busy). So it’s >> 15Mbps download (not upload) on 3G and on 4G (LTE) here is the figures from >> the carrier’s website:- >> >> >> >> >> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/coverage-networks/network-information/4g/ >> >> “Customers using a USB 4G mobile broadband device in 4G coverage areas can >> enjoy typical download speeds ranging from 2Mbps to 40Mbps – up to twice as >> fast as our fastest existing 3G device (the Ultimate USB). Customers can >> also experience typical upload speeds of 1Mbps to 10Mbps in 4G coverage >> areas, which is up to 3 times faster than our 3G Ultimate USB device today.” >> >> >> >> Then of course there is the added latency on wireless services. For most >> of this country ADSL1/2+ services are still the best option unless you want >> to spend the bigger bucks. >> >> >> >> James. >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ken schaefer >> Sent: Friday, 6 July 2012 9:54 PM >> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: No more SBS >> >> >> >> Interesting. Most places I've been worldwide have 15mbps+ over 3G. In Aus >> we have LTE which is 40mbps+ Sending a 5MB email is no issue. You can buy 3G >> router devices for $200, which include failover between dsl/cable and 3G. >> Just insert your SIM. I have a couple one from SG and one from Aus. >> >> >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Graeme Carstairs >> Sent: 6/7/2012 8:44 PM >> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: No more SBS >> >> There is 3G, >> >> >> >> But 3G speeds for a single phone user are poor neve mind trying to run 10 >> people or more through a 3G dongle to access their e-mails, and SharePoint >> >> >> >> Dial up is also a non started people are now getting used to sending >> e-mails of any size and them appearing almost instanlty, >> >> >> >> Someone sends a 5?MB file and everyone stops working for 15 minutes as >> your dongle is maxed out, plus mobile data charges are horrendous as well. >> >> >> >> For areas in the UK SBS with Exchange onsite is still the best options for >> small businesses. >> >> >> >> Graeme >> >> >> >> >> >> Graeme >> >> >> >> >> >> On 6 July 2012 10:35, ken schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> There's no 3G/4G? >> >> >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Graeme Carstairs >> Sent: 6/7/2012 7:11 PM >> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: No more SBS >> >> My big problem in the UK and in Aberdeen is that the only affordable >> internet service is DSL and the majority of Exchanges are not LLU, so its BT >> Wholesale service, where the SLA is"we will make a best effort to fix in a >> reasonable timeframe" >> >> >> >> Now on premises SBS 2011 with Exchange links go down, you get no e-mail >> from outside. >> >> >> >> Office 365 for file and and e-mail and Sharepoint, Links go down you get >> no e-mail plus cant get at the rest of your stuff either. >> >> >> >> Backup DSL?? yeh from the same exchange on the same 50pair cable at the >> cabinet, probably ont he same DSLAM even if you go to a different ISP its >> still the BT wholesale service, so the chances are when DSL1 goes down the >> backup one goes down too. >> >> >> >> Get a leased line with SLA looking into £9000 plus depending on distance >> and bandwidth, per year, oh you could have a server for that and not need >> the leased line. >> >> >> >> We have 5% of our Small business clients on Office 365, we did have 10% >> but the 1st 2 days DSL outage and they wanted their servers back. >> >> >> >> Cloud is only as good as the links to the cloud, and unfortunately good >> reliable fast links are not cost acceptable in some parts of the world. >> >> >> >> I know that 95% of our SBS customers will not be happy and will make the >> move from Exchange to a.n. other e-mail server, and may move from MS all >> together. >> >> >> >> Graeme >> >> >> >> >> >> On 6 July 2012 07:30, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well then, let's put things in perspective. I've had my personal mail >> domain hosted by Microsoft for several years now and I've never experienced >> an outage. I know someone with Office 365 and he did. >> >> >> >> So, have they had outages? Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo.... sure. For everyone? >> Was it just the free services or ALL of the pay services. Let's not get >> into claiming that it affected millions on millions of people when most of >> the time a few hundred to a few thousand were affected and most had service >> restored in a few hours. >> >> >> >> We have some resilience with various apps at work and we work really hard >> to maintain uptime, yet the storage team missed a small, yet evidently very >> important check box on the new SAN last weekend and as a result, Monday was >> a joy to be in the office. The only thing we could do was wait for the >> storage team to correct the issue which just took time. >> >> >> >> So the cloud is no different then anyone's office. If you have a paid >> service then you have SLA's and penalties for those not being met. >> >> >> >> Three of our various data centers will also being going upgrades to the >> power in the next few months. While we have some resilience, we aren't that >> large that we will have all services available when we shut the main site >> down. AS a result, we get an outage. >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Greg Sweers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I would say for organizations with less than 200 people scheduled downtime >> is the norm. That is getting shorter with the combination of "Cloud" >> technologies and as hardware continues to get cheaper. I agree that larger >> organizations can afford the technology to prevent downtime as their >> downtime cost around a 24x7 schedule is easily justified with an ROI. I >> don’t know any SMB's that can't afford an hour downtime in the middle of the >> night for automatic patching, reboots, etc...and most of them do LOB apps >> upgrades once or twice a year for a few hours.. Hardly a business case for >> that kind of tech/software. >> >> Greg Sweers >> CEO >> ACTS360.com >> P.O. Box 1193 >> Brandon, FL 33509 >> 813-657-0849 Office >> 813-758-6850 Cell >> 813-341-1270 Fax >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:15 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: No more SBS >> >> Scheduled downtime is a good thing, especially in SMBs - when you don't >> have monetary resources, you use time and energy. Most small businesses have >> times when they're not staffed, and those are good times to do patching, >> upgrading, reconfiguring, etc. >> >> Larger businesses have the resources to pull these things off behind the >> scenes. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Eh, downtime is downtime. Call me oldschool. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:07 PM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: No more SBS >> > >> > There have been major outages of several hours each in several of the >> > major cloud providers at the most inconvenient times - scheduled downtime >> > is >> > one thing, unscheduled outages another. >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> eh? Poor uptime records for clouds? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> This is unfortunate thinking, given the poor uptime record for >> >>> clouds in general, and it's worse when you consider connectivity >> >>> issues as part of that equation. >> >>> >> >>> Kurt >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are >> >>> > the easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, >> >>> > immediate benefit. >> >>> > No need for on-premise hardware. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: RE: No more SBS >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn’t >> >>> > include SQL or Exchange. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > However, I see it as an ongoing “move to the Enterprise” for >> >>> > Microsoft. >> >>> > They >> >>> > are abandoning their small business roots. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM >> >>> >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: No more SBS >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > I don’t see the product in the environments I work in but >> >>> > Microsoft says no more SBS. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-201 >> >>> > 2 >> >>> > -versions-licensing-7000000341/ >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9A >> >> >>> > A F-EEF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server >> >>> > 2011 Standard? >> >>> > >> >>> > No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes >> >>> > Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the >> >>> > final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to >> >>> > small business market trends and behavior. The small business >> >>> > computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing >> >>> > for applications and services such as email, online back-up and >> >>> > line-of-business tools. 13 >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 >> >>> > Premium Add-on? >> >>> > >> >>> > No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which >> >>> > includes SQL Server and Windows Server as component products, will >> >>> > be the final such Windows Server offering. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Carl Webster >> >>> > >> >>> > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional >> >>> > >> >>> > http://www.CarlWebster.com >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > --- >> >>> > To manage subscriptions click here: >> >>> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> >>> > or send an email to [email protected] >> >>> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > --- >> >>> > To manage subscriptions click here: >> >>> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> >>> > or send an email to [email protected] >> >>> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! 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