Thanks very much, Brian.  Things have indeed changed quite a bit with the
current version and licensing model.

I have setup SCVMM 2008 R2 in a test lab before, and I agree that it was
simple and straightforward after a surprisingly shallow learning curve.

Cheers,
Richard Stovall

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]>wrote:

>  *It’s actually reasonably straight forward. All of the System Center
> licensing is now rolled together into one big “management license [ML]”.
> You either license it for servers or clients.*
>
> * *
>
> *In the case of servers, for virtualization, you would likely want the
> Datacenter ML on a processor basis based on how many physical VM host CPUs
> you have. Each Datacenter ML gets you two physical CPUs. So if you have 3
> dual socket hosts, you need 6 Datacenter MLs.*
>
> * *
>
> *See **
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/0/870B5D9B-ACF1-4192-BD0A-543AF551B7AE/System%20Center%202012%20Licensing%20FAQ.pdf
> *<http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/0/870B5D9B-ACF1-4192-BD0A-543AF551B7AE/System%20Center%202012%20Licensing%20FAQ.pdf>
> **
>
> * *
>
> *You’ll want to stand up an SCVMM server to manage HyperV and/or ESX. I
> found the install and figuring it out to be pretty painless. It includes
> its own SQL license of sort so you don’t have to pay extra for that. *
>
> * *
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Brian Desmond*
>
> *[email protected]*
>
> * *
>
> *w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132*
>
> * *
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:42 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Windows InTune****
>
> ** **
>
> Which, apropos of nothing, reminds me of a recent conversation with the
> boss.****
>
> ** **
>
> We were talking about our virtualization infrastructure since our VMware
> licenses are up for renewal at the end of this month.  He asked me if we
> should go with MS and the newest version of Hyper-V on Server 2012 instead
> of VMware.****
>
> ** **
>
> Long story short, I can't get a conversion done in a week, and Server 2012
> isn't going to be generally available until September 4th anyway, so it's a
> non-starter for the moment.  Next year, however...****
>
> ** **
>
> The question I have is how in the heck do I compare the direct costs of
> licensing ESX(i) and Hyper-V 2012.  Obviously I know my annual VMware
> costs, and I think the Hyper-V bits are actually 'free'[1] in that they are
> baked into the OS, but it's the System Center licensing that I really don't
> understand.  SCVMM?  SCThis?  SCThat? SCEssentials?****
>
> ** **
>
> SCWTF_Do_I really_need?****
>
> ** **
>
> If there is a concise guide out there about licensing this stuff for a
> pure Hyper-V-only environment, I would definitely appreciate a pointer.***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks, as always,****
>
> ** **
>
> RS****
>
> ** **
>
> [1] I've got current VL versions of Server 2012 Datacenter that I
> could/will use if moving away from VMware.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
>  Maintaining full capabilities without internet connectivity.****
>
>  ****
>
> Full capabilities without additional Internet-based licensing.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] ****
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:11 PM****
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows InTune****
>
>  ****
>
> Yeah…I have my reasons for some level of concern, but what’s yours?****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:54 PM****
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows InTune****
>
>  ****
>
> Which scares the crap outta me.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:30 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows InTune****
>
>  ****
>
> What exactly do you want to know?****
>
>  ****
>
> InTune has come a long way in a short time and does a great job.  And,
> Microsoft is investing heavily in the future of InTune, and will eventually
> marry ConfigMgr and InTune.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:48 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Windows InTune****
>
>  ****
>
> We're seeing a greater need for something like Windows InTune for about
> 10-15 machines that rarely touch our network.  Currently, we have no way to
> manage these machines and assure they're receiving Microsoft, Adobe, Java,
> or other updates. VIPRE does report home, however, so at least that aspect
> is covered.  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Any comments regarding InTune usage results or evaluations would be
> helpful.  TIA...
>
>
> Roger Wright
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