Andrew,
I think we are talking two different things here. True, Windows Server Datacenter 2008 R2, which I think you are talking about, is licensed per processor, minimum of two processors. I was making reference to the Server Management Licenses for System Center 2012 that Richard was asking about. The System Center 2012 Datacenter ML covers up to two physical processors. Based on Brian's example of 3 dual socket hosts he showed 6 Datacenter MLs being needed. Talking about System Center 2012 management Licenses here not the operating system. The correct answer is 3 Datacenter MLs are needed. One for each dual socket host. Art DeKneef Avanti Computers Mesa, AZ 480-649-4430 Office 480-529-4430 Mobile From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows InTune Nope... DataCenter is generally licenses per socket. So, if you have a machine with 2 sockets in use, that means 2 DataCenter licenses. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Art DeKneef <[email protected]> wrote: Brian, Don't you mean you need 3 Datacenter MLs? One for each of the dual socket hosts. Art DeKneef Avanti Computers Mesa, AZ 480-649-4430 Office 480-529-4430 Mobile From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune It's actually reasonably straight forward. All of the System Center licensing is now rolled together into one big "management license [ML]". You either license it for servers or clients. In the case of servers, for virtualization, you would likely want the Datacenter ML on a processor basis based on how many physical VM host CPUs you have. Each Datacenter ML gets you two physical CPUs. So if you have 3 dual socket hosts, you need 6 Datacenter MLs. See <http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/0/870B5D9B-ACF1-4192-BD0A-543AF5 51B7AE/System%20Center%202012%20Licensing%20FAQ.pdf> http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/0/870B5D9B-ACF1-4192-BD0A-543AF55 1B7AE/System%20Center%202012%20Licensing%20FAQ.pdf You'll want to stand up an SCVMM server to manage HyperV and/or ESX. I found the install and figuring it out to be pretty painless. It includes its own SQL license of sort so you don't have to pay extra for that. Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected] w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Richard Stovall [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows InTune Which, apropos of nothing, reminds me of a recent conversation with the boss. We were talking about our virtualization infrastructure since our VMware licenses are up for renewal at the end of this month. He asked me if we should go with MS and the newest version of Hyper-V on Server 2012 instead of VMware. Long story short, I can't get a conversion done in a week, and Server 2012 isn't going to be generally available until September 4th anyway, so it's a non-starter for the moment. Next year, however... The question I have is how in the heck do I compare the direct costs of licensing ESX(i) and Hyper-V 2012. Obviously I know my annual VMware costs, and I think the Hyper-V bits are actually 'free'[1] in that they are baked into the OS, but it's the System Center licensing that I really don't understand. SCVMM? SCThis? SCThat? SCEssentials? SCWTF_Do_I really_need? If there is a concise guide out there about licensing this stuff for a pure Hyper-V-only environment, I would definitely appreciate a pointer. Thanks, as always, RS [1] I've got current VL versions of Server 2012 Datacenter that I could/will use if moving away from VMware. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote: Maintaining full capabilities without internet connectivity. Full capabilities without additional Internet-based licensing. From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune Yeah.I have my reasons for some level of concern, but what's yours? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune Which scares the crap outta me. From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune What exactly do you want to know? InTune has come a long way in a short time and does a great job. And, Microsoft is investing heavily in the future of InTune, and will eventually marry ConfigMgr and InTune. From: Roger Wright [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows InTune We're seeing a greater need for something like Windows InTune for about 10-15 machines that rarely touch our network. Currently, we have no way to manage these machines and assure they're receiving Microsoft, Adobe, Java, or other updates. VIPRE does report home, however, so at least that aspect is covered. Any comments regarding InTune usage results or evaluations would be helpful. TIA... 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