For small(er), centralised, environments, SCVMM 2008 is reasonably good. It has limitations in managing non-domain hosts. It has limitations working across WANs (e.g. library functions are pretty useless). 2FA systems can have issues with the server console view that it presents. It has limited HA features, and it’s limited in the number of hosts and guests it can manage.
SCVMM 2012 is definitely an improvement. Cheers Ken From: Richard Stovall [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012 2:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows InTune Thanks very much, Brian. Things have indeed changed quite a bit with the current version and licensing model. I have setup SCVMM 2008 R2 in a test lab before, and I agree that it was simple and straightforward after a surprisingly shallow learning curve. Cheers, Richard Stovall On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It’s actually reasonably straight forward. All of the System Center licensing is now rolled together into one big “management license [ML]”. You either license it for servers or clients. In the case of servers, for virtualization, you would likely want the Datacenter ML on a processor basis based on how many physical VM host CPUs you have. Each Datacenter ML gets you two physical CPUs. So if you have 3 dual socket hosts, you need 6 Datacenter MLs. See http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/0/870B5D9B-ACF1-4192-BD0A-543AF551B7AE/System%20Center%202012%20Licensing%20FAQ.pdf You’ll want to stand up an SCVMM server to manage HyperV and/or ESX. I found the install and figuring it out to be pretty painless. It includes its own SQL license of sort so you don’t have to pay extra for that. Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w – 312.625.1438<tel:312.625.1438> | c – 312.731.3132<tel:312.731.3132> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows InTune Which, apropos of nothing, reminds me of a recent conversation with the boss. We were talking about our virtualization infrastructure since our VMware licenses are up for renewal at the end of this month. He asked me if we should go with MS and the newest version of Hyper-V on Server 2012 instead of VMware. Long story short, I can't get a conversion done in a week, and Server 2012 isn't going to be generally available until September 4th anyway, so it's a non-starter for the moment. Next year, however... The question I have is how in the heck do I compare the direct costs of licensing ESX(i) and Hyper-V 2012. Obviously I know my annual VMware costs, and I think the Hyper-V bits are actually 'free'[1] in that they are baked into the OS, but it's the System Center licensing that I really don't understand. SCVMM? SCThis? SCThat? SCEssentials? SCWTF_Do_I really_need? If there is a concise guide out there about licensing this stuff for a pure Hyper-V-only environment, I would definitely appreciate a pointer. Thanks, as always, RS [1] I've got current VL versions of Server 2012 Datacenter that I could/will use if moving away from VMware. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Maintaining full capabilities without internet connectivity. Full capabilities without additional Internet-based licensing. From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune Yeah…I have my reasons for some level of concern, but what’s yours? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune Which scares the crap outta me. From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune What exactly do you want to know? InTune has come a long way in a short time and does a great job. And, Microsoft is investing heavily in the future of InTune, and will eventually marry ConfigMgr and InTune. From: Roger Wright [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows InTune We're seeing a greater need for something like Windows InTune for about 10-15 machines that rarely touch our network. Currently, we have no way to manage these machines and assure they're receiving Microsoft, Adobe, Java, or other updates. VIPRE does report home, however, so at least that aspect is covered. Any comments regarding InTune usage results or evaluations would be helpful. TIA... 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