So, it *was* possible - they just didn't want to pay the price.

Let's hope they mitigated the risk somehow - perhaps by making sure it
wasn't connected to a network and by making sure they had replacement
hardware on the shelf.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
> I hate to tell you this but sometimes it just is not possible to do upgrades
> whether is it due to no budget or there is just no software to run the
> attached hardware to run on newer systems.  I faced this at former $dayjob$.
> Attached hardware was antique X-ray diffractmeter.  Last software upgrade
> was to Windows 98, and I really mean Windows 98 not 98 SE, but the company
> had managed to get it to function with XP.  $dayjob$ was told to either
> replace hardware, $150k+ just for the hardware and maybe $300k for the
> software, or pay them to custom write an upgrade or patch to get it to run
> under Vista, and they would not even estimate that price.  Needless to say
> no upgrades were done.
>
> Jon
>
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 -0500
>>
>> Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out there,
>> but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded
>> because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the vendor
>> does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Gordon [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
>>
>> Sorry... I really can't help it... I have to...
>>
>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
>>
>> Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year old
>> OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as secure
>> as a whore's drawers...???
>>
>> Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
>> least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't
>> likely
>> to expire at any moment?
>>
>> Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come across
>> a
>> similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty dim
>> view of it...
>>
>> No offence intended....
>>
>> Paul G.
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nigel Parker [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Remote control software
>>
>> Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
>> once
>> then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none
>> seemed
>> to work!
>> Will look at logmein
>> And the group policy settings
>>
>> Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense
>>
>>
>> Nigel Parker
>> Systems Engineer
>> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
>> Tel: 01200 452329
>> Fax: 01200 452201
>> Web:   www.ultraframe.com
>> Email: mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Remote control software
>>
>> What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Remote control software
>>
>> Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
>> want.
>>
>> If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
>> to getting them upgraded.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
>> RELIABLY
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Nigel Parker" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
>> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>> <[email protected]>Subject: RE: Remote control
>> software
>>
>> Hi
>> I looked at using this
>> But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning
>> it
>> on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
>> machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7
>>
>> I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
>> machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
>> systems,
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Nigel Parker
>> Systems Engineer
>> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
>> Tel: 01200 452329
>> Fax: 01200 452201
>> Web:   www.ultraframe.com
>> Email: mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Remote control software
>>
>> What's wrong with RDP?
>>
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Nigel Parker
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Remote control software
>> Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21
>>
>> Hi
>> We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
>> windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
>> software out to desktops.
>>
>> We could use remote assistance however!
>> We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting
>> or
>> is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
>> while they are out.
>>
>> In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
>> updates.
>>
>> question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
>> when
>> connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome
>>
>> Nigel Parker
>> Systems Engineer
>> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
>> Tel: 01200 452329
>> Fax: 01200 452201
>> Web:   www.ultraframe.com
>> Email: mailto:[email protected]
>>
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