Well, sounds like you did what you could. It's hard working for the clueless...
Kurt On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > In my case we kept really old systems and I pulled as much hardware out of > retiring systems as possible to keep the existing one running. I had the > system IP'ed to a dead end and the firewall blocked all requests for that > NIC to access anything beyond it although the Lab Manager was very pissed > about this. He had the idea that all systems in the lab were his personal > property and I should not be managing HIS systems but he should. The > principle operator of the system had a bad habit of browsing to sites that > he had been repeately warned to stay off of from office systems. Upper > Management only backed me up to a certain point. I had the top person tell > me to my face that if anyone objected to what he was viewing they should > stay out of the lab! This was a State research facility under a University, > go figure. > > Jon > >> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:58:33 -0800 > >> Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] > >> >> So, it *was* possible - they just didn't want to pay the price. >> >> Let's hope they mitigated the risk somehow - perhaps by making sure it >> wasn't connected to a network and by making sure they had replacement >> hardware on the shelf. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I hate to tell you this but sometimes it just is not possible to do >> > upgrades >> > whether is it due to no budget or there is just no software to run the >> > attached hardware to run on newer systems. I faced this at former >> > $dayjob$. >> > Attached hardware was antique X-ray diffractmeter. Last software upgrade >> > was to Windows 98, and I really mean Windows 98 not 98 SE, but the >> > company >> > had managed to get it to function with XP. $dayjob$ was told to either >> > replace hardware, $150k+ just for the hardware and maybe $300k for the >> > software, or pay them to custom write an upgrade or patch to get it to >> > run >> > under Vista, and they would not even estimate that price. Needless to >> > say >> > no upgrades were done. >> > >> > Jon >> > >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software >> >> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 -0500 >> >> >> >> Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out >> >> there, >> >> but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded >> >> because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the >> >> vendor >> >> does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Paul Gordon [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software >> >> >> >> Sorry... I really can't help it... I have to... >> >> >> >> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! >> >> >> >> Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year >> >> old >> >> OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as >> >> secure >> >> as a whore's drawers...??? >> >> >> >> Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at >> >> least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't >> >> likely >> >> to expire at any moment? >> >> >> >> Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come >> >> across >> >> a >> >> similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty >> >> dim >> >> view of it... >> >> >> >> No offence intended.... >> >> >> >> Paul G. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Nigel Parker [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47 >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: RE: Remote control software >> >> >> >> Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected >> >> once >> >> then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none >> >> seemed >> >> to work! >> >> Will look at logmein >> >> And the group policy settings >> >> >> >> Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense >> >> >> >> >> >> Nigel Parker >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd >> >> Tel: 01200 452329 >> >> Fax: 01200 452201 >> >> Web: www.ultraframe.com >> >> Email: mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30 >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: RE: Remote control software >> >> >> >> What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: Re: Remote control software >> >> >> >> Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if >> >> you >> >> want. >> >> >> >> If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a >> >> lever >> >> to getting them upgraded. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email >> >> RELIABLY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: "Nigel Parker" <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39 >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> >> >> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" >> >> <[email protected]>Subject: RE: Remote control >> >> software >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> I looked at using this >> >> But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of >> >> turning >> >> it >> >> on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of >> >> machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 >> >> >> >> I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows >> >> 95 >> >> machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing >> >> systems, >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Nigel Parker >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd >> >> Tel: 01200 452329 >> >> Fax: 01200 452201 >> >> Web: www.ultraframe.com >> >> Email: mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38 >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: Re: Remote control software >> >> >> >> What's wrong with RDP? >> >> >> >> ------Original Message------ >> >> From: Nigel Parker >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: Remote control software >> >> Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21 >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that >> >> on >> >> windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the >> >> software out to desktops. >> >> >> >> We could use remote assistance however! >> >> We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a >> >> meeting >> >> or >> >> is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have >> >> to >> >> while they are out. >> >> >> >> In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for >> >> updates. >> >> >> >> question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get >> >> when >> >> connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome >> >> >> >> Nigel Parker >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd >> >> Tel: 01200 452329 >> >> Fax: 01200 452201 >> >> Web: www.ultraframe.com >> >> Email: mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. >> >> >> >> The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may >> >> not >> >> represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. >> >> This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it >> >> is >> >> confidential and may be legally privileged. 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