I'd be curious to know how many of the list members touting the greatness of 
BES are still running Exchange 2003 for their messaging servers. Exchange 2007 
brings a whole new level of ability to EAS that didn't exist before, and 
management is really non-existent.
TVK


From: MarvinC [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cell phone questions

Thinking of switching from my XV6800 to a BB device and setting up a BES server 
for my small business. Other than the MS features I don't see a whole lot that 
I'd be missing. Funny how I wasn't thinking this way when I bought my first PDA 
from T-mobile years ago. Spending close to $500 on new phones in today's 
economy just doesn't seem to make sense.



On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, James Kerr 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I really like my touch pro.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Heaton<mailto:[email protected]>
To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: Cell phone questions


But there is a cost to the BES server, and I work for the state of California.  
They're trying to fix a $42 Billion deficit... I'm being furloughed 2 days a 
month at the moment, which  equates to about a 10% pay cut.



Joe Heaton

Employment Training Panel



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cell phone questions



Again not to hijack the tread but we have about 40 BB's, and I barely remember 
that I have a BES server!

BlackBerry is constantly coming out with new handsets, last week we got an 
upgrade for one user to the new 8900 Curve, very very nice with a 3.2Mp 
camera., lots of memory and very nice form factor.

I use the Bold again very nice little bit older and larger but fantastic 
display.



Again as other have pointed out the BES server is very easy to maintain, there 
is a very short learning curve!



___________________________________

Stefan Jafs



From: N Parr 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cell phone questions



I've always been a fan of the Samsungs starting with the 700, 730, and 760.  I 
just got my touch pro a month ago and wouldn't go back.  Personally I like a 
keyboard.  What I do miss from my 760 is the direct dial pad for making calls 
but that just forces me to keep my contacts more up to date.  I've used all the 
XV series and couldn't stand any of them.  I also admin 50 BB's and I think the 
management overhead is less in some ways than compared to Windows mobile.  BB's 
just work, they are set and forget and easy to use by non-techies.



________________________________

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cell phone questions

Anyone using the XV6900?  If so, how do you like the keyboard options?  We're 
looking for replacement phones, and I need some experienced advice.  We are 
under contract with Verizon, so our choices are limited to what they offer.  
We've been using the Treo700wx, but we've been told that it is now obsolete and 
not offered.  The following are our choices:



XV6900

Samsung i760

HTC Touch Pro

XV6800 - I'm leaning towards this one, but I fear it will be unavailable soon...

Palm Centro - I'm not looking at this very seriously, as it doesn't come with 
WM6, or Mobile Office apps

Motorola Q9c - I've heard bad reviews of this one, don't know if they've fixed 
the issues or not.

Samsung Saga i770

Samsung Omnia





We could also go Blackberry, but we don't really want to, as that would add 
additional management overhead for us, with needing to get BES, etc.



Any personal experiences/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.



Thanks,



Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

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