I haven't started on 2007 but do have 2003 exchange server for my business
and also support them and believe me I'm not touting BES as the next great
thing but I will agree that it works, plain and simple. I also agree that
for most users and admins this is all that matters.
The problem I've had over the years is the PDA's inability to keep a decent
charge with Active Sync enabled. In this past year I've had 2 phones, spent
extra money on batteries when all I needed is the ability to walk without
having to keep a charger in my pocket or keeping it docked, and making sure
that I have no programs running, or making sure Wi-Fi isn't enabled, etc,
etc. At $400 a pop keeping a charge should be the least of my worries. After
a while it gets old and you start wondering what's the point of it all?

All of this is mute because every time I look and hold a BB device I'm drawn
back to a PDA. I'm so pimped by windows it's not even funny.



On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I'd be curious to know how many of the list members touting the greatness
> of BES are still running Exchange 2003 for their messaging servers. Exchange
> 2007 brings a whole new level of ability to EAS that didn't exist before,
> and management is really non-existent.
>
> TVK
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2009 2:26 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cell phone questions
>
>
>
> Thinking of switching from my XV6800 to a BB device and setting up a BES
> server for my small business. Other than the MS features I don't see a whole
> lot that I'd be missing. Funny how I wasn't thinking this way when I bought
> my first PDA from T-mobile years ago. Spending close to $500 on new phones
> in today's economy just doesn't seem to make sense.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, James Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I really like my touch pro.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Joe Heaton <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2009 2:22 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: Cell phone questions
>
>
>
> But there is a cost to the BES server, and I work for the state of
> California.  They're trying to fix a $42 Billion deficit… I'm being
> furloughed 2 days a month at the moment, which  equates to about a 10% pay
> cut.
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Employment Training Panel
>
>
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2009 11:00 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cell phone questions
>
>
>
> Again not to hijack the tread but we have about 40 BB's, and I barely
> remember that I have a BES server!
>
> BlackBerry is constantly coming out with new handsets, last week we got an
> upgrade for one user to the new 8900 Curve, very very nice with a 3.2Mp
> camera., lots of memory and very nice form factor.
>
> I use the Bold again very nice little bit older and larger but fantastic
> display.
>
>
>
> Again as other have pointed out the BES server is very easy to maintain,
> there is a very short learning curve!
>
>
>
> *___________________________________*
>
> *Stefan Jafs*
>
>
>
> *From:* N Parr [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2009 1:38 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cell phone questions
>
>
>
> I've always been a fan of the Samsungs starting with the 700, 730, and
> 760.  I just got my touch pro a month ago and wouldn't go back.  Personally
> I like a keyboard.  What I do miss from my 760 is the direct dial pad for
> making calls but that just forces me to keep my contacts more up to date.
> I've used all the XV series and couldn't stand any of them.  I also admin 50
> BB's and I think the management overhead is less in some ways than compared
> to Windows mobile.  BB's just work, they are set and forget and easy to use
> by non-techies.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2009 11:42 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Cell phone questions
>
> Anyone using the XV6900?  If so, how do you like the keyboard options?
> We're looking for replacement phones, and I need some experienced advice.
> We are under contract with Verizon, so our choices are limited to what they
> offer.  We've been using the Treo700wx, but we've been told that it is now
> obsolete and not offered.  The following are our choices:
>
>
>
> XV6900
>
> Samsung i760
>
> HTC Touch Pro
>
> XV6800 – I'm leaning towards this one, but I fear it will be unavailable
> soon…
>
> Palm Centro – I'm not looking at this very seriously, as it doesn't come
> with WM6, or Mobile Office apps
>
> Motorola Q9c – I've heard bad reviews of this one, don't know if they've
> fixed the issues or not.
>
> Samsung Saga i770
>
> Samsung Omnia
>
>
>
>
>
> We could also go Blackberry, but we don't really want to, as that would add
> additional management overhead for us, with needing to get BES, etc.
>
>
>
> Any personal experiences/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> AISA
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> Employment Training Panel
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