My point is, who determines what's a new release vs. an upgrade? Asking 3 different people would probably get you 3 different answers. So you end up paying for it if you feel it's worth it, and not paying if you don't, regardless of what the vendor calls it. Which is honestly what should happen anyways. TVK
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My OS is better than your OS what it is, is BS if Im paying full OS price for a dot upgrade. -- ME2 On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Aren't product renames versus dot upgrades really all just arbitrary anymore, regardless of the vendor in question. It's all about marketing...and there is nothing wrong with that. TVK From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My OS is better than your OS +1 -- ME2 On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Rob Bonfiglio <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I haven't messed around with Windows 7 yet, but I'm pretty sure the UAC isn't going away. And I don't think you can blame the application compatibility completely on Microsoft. And certainly not the lack of drivers. Why is that not the vendors' fault for getting them out within a reasonable time frame? It seems to me that all we're really getting with Windows 7 is Vista SP3 or R2. You're getting a renamed OS due to bad press and agressive marketing by Mac. But, like I said, I haven't messed around with it much. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Ziots, Edward <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: More than ¾ of my applications aren't supported with Vista by there vendors, on top of UAC and all the prompting, major reason why we sticking to XP. Honestly, I used Vista at home, and hated it, lack of drivers, application incompabilities, had to relax a boatload of permissions and security levels just to make some things work ok, or at all. It isn't worth the pain. Z Edward Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Phone:401-639-3505 ________________________________ From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My OS is better than your OS I've never had any problems with Vista. I'm curious, what specifically is Windows 7 addressing for you that was a bust in Vista? On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ziots, Edward <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Waiting for Windows 7 honestly, because Vista was a BUST... Z Edward Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Phone:401-639-3505 -----Original Message----- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My OS is better than your OS On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Phil Brutsche<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I'm sorry, but I don't think you've used Vista enough. I'm sorry, but I don't think you read my message carefully enough. :) > If you set up separate admin and non-admin accounts - with passwords - > the UAC prompts will *require* the user enter a password for the > elevation to succeed. That part was in the paragraph immediately following the one you quoted. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
