Yeah - that too ! 
 
It's actually more like a 40K 'pay-to-play-fee'  LOL
 

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
[email protected]


  

 

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From: Don Ely [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc


Just an FYI, but Vipre didn't make Gartner's list because Stu didn't pay
them a $20 per year subscription to be listed...  ;o)


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan <[email protected]>
wrote:


        I think a significant part of the equation is how large of a
network you're supporting and how much administration is involved. We've
been running McAfee and ePO since 2002/2003, and from a security
standpoint it has been outstanding when it comes to Antivirus
protection. Unfortunately it does little in the realm of helping to
protect us from Malware/Spyware. There's ANOTHER McAfee product for that
($$$). From an administration standpoint, it has been a significant
headache - so much so that we've been contemplating replacing it when
our licensing support agreement is up for renewal in March of 2010.
Another significant part of the equation is how educated we are as an
end user/customer. I'm wondering if better education on the McAfee
product for our administration staff would solve some of our headaches.
Then again, it is AV. We need it to work, and we need proof that it is
updating. How much administration should it require?

         

        We're supporting hundreds of desktops and servers, by year end
we'll be over 500 workstations and servers total. What I don't need is
even more of an administration headache. I've heard really good things
about NOD from an administration standpoint, and just about everybody
seems to be complaining about how much stuff Symantec breaks. We've had
very little issue with McAfee breaking things, but administration is
frustrating, according to my admin(s).

         

        We're contemplating ESET NOD32, Symantec/Norton, Trend Micro,
Sophos, and VIPRE. I've seen good and bad things about all of them, and
VIPRE is so young of a product comparatively, I'm skittish, but given
the good things I've heard about VIPRE, combined with the relative cost,
I can't ignore them. I've seen enough bad about the rest of them, that
I'm contemplating staying where we are and dealing with "the devil we
know", but I've had enough bad experience with McAfee, I really want to
know if there really is anything truly better out there that I can
trust. From the people I've talked with, anyone who started with McAfee
ePO and moved to Symantec HATES Symantec, and anyone who started with
Symantec and moved to McAfee HATES McAfee...

         

        If you look at Gartner's last Magic Quadrant : 
http://www.eset.com/gartner/ McAfee, Symantec, Sophos and Trend are the
"leaders" in the industry...VIPRE didn't even make the list...

         

        Anybody else in the same/similar dilemma or better yet, anybody
else successfully find a way out that they are pleased with?

        Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
        Technology Coordinator
        Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
        [email protected]
        www.eaglemds.com 

        
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        From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:03 PM 

        To: NT System Admin Issues
        
        Subject: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc 

        

        

         

        What do you guys like (besides Vipre, obviously! :-)) for
antivirus/anti-spyware/anti-malware/etc? Our AVG is coming up for
renewal in January and I'm not sure I want to renew it. I am considering
Vipre, although I thought the interface (on the home version - didn't
have a spare server to set up the Enterprise trial) was a bit "clunky"
due to having to "white list" an app in several different places. :-(

         

        I'm also considering purchasing a bunch of licenses for Malware
Bytes so I can have that on every desktop. I'm also thinking about
F-Secure/F-Prot. I know that one of our vendors uses and recommends
Kaspersky and I have used them in the past at home.  Any others? 

         

        The idea of using a Microsoft antivirus doesn't sit well with
me.... Of course there's always the argument of "they know where the
security holes are so they can protect them." But my answer to that is,
"well, if they know where the holes are, they can fix 'em and not charge
me for an antivirus product!" :-)

         

          

         

         

         

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