The "4%" is a very good point.  Looking at reports for my mail and web gateways 
and there really is very little "viruses" these days.  It's all SPAM or Malware.

From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 22 August 2009 4:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc

Hi Jonathan,

We have customers with thousands of workstations running on one
VIPRE Enterprise server, so we scale easily to the environment
you are describing. And we get about 1,000 new customers each
month. Regarding VIPRE being a "young" product....

Well, let's look at that for a moment. We like to say we come
from the 'hard part' of the business. I'll explain. Yes, viruses
(technically really 'file infectors') have been around for 20
years. But these file infectors are relatively easy to detect
and remove compared to what has been happening in the last 5
years with malware. Sunbelt first released CounterSpy in 2004,
and so for 5 years we have been deeply involved in detecting
and remediating -way- more sophisticated malware compared to
relatively simple viruses. And did you know that traditional
viruses today are only 4% of the current total malware out there?

It was relatively easy to add scanning for viruses, when we decided
to write VIPRE from scratch as a single-engine-for-all-malware 3
years ago. So, too new a product? Not really, like I said we have
5 years of hard-won experience in removing malware, starting with
CounterSpy, which we still sell by the way. VIPRE Enterprise was
built on top of the enormously successful console we already had
with CounterSpy Enterprise, and VIPRE Enterprise has of course
been improved over time. (And it helps that we have the lead
architect Mike Neitzel of ESET's NOD32 now here working for us...)

The fact we came from the 'hard part' of the business, and were
able to build VIPRE as a single-engine-for-all-malware is actually
an incredible advantage that you can now benefit from!

And about Gartner's famous magic quadrant... what they are
comparing are endpoint tools, meaning they include a firewall.
VIPRE Enterprise V4 (expected in Q4) will have a firewall built
in and then the product is 'eligible' to get into that comparison.

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
[email protected]





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From: Raper, Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc
I think a significant part of the equation is how large of a network you're 
supporting and how much administration is involved. We've been running McAfee 
and ePO since 2002/2003, and from a security standpoint it has been outstanding 
when it comes to Antivirus protection. Unfortunately it does little in the 
realm of helping to protect us from Malware/Spyware. There's ANOTHER McAfee 
product for that ($$$). From an administration standpoint, it has been a 
significant headache - so much so that we've been contemplating replacing it 
when our licensing support agreement is up for renewal in March of 2010. 
Another significant part of the equation is how educated we are as an end 
user/customer. I'm wondering if better education on the McAfee product for our 
administration staff would solve some of our headaches. Then again, it is AV. 
We need it to work, and we need proof that it is updating. How much 
administration should it require?

We're supporting hundreds of desktops and servers, by year end we'll be over 
500 workstations and servers total. What I don't need is even more of an 
administration headache. I've heard really good things about NOD from an 
administration standpoint, and just about everybody seems to be complaining 
about how much stuff Symantec breaks. We've had very little issue with McAfee 
breaking things, but administration is frustrating, according to my admin(s).

We're contemplating ESET NOD32, Symantec/Norton, Trend Micro, Sophos, and 
VIPRE. I've seen good and bad things about all of them, and VIPRE is so young 
of a product comparatively, I'm skittish, but given the good things I've heard 
about VIPRE, combined with the relative cost, I can't ignore them. I've seen 
enough bad about the rest of them, that I'm contemplating staying where we are 
and dealing with "the devil we know", but I've had enough bad experience with 
McAfee, I really want to know if there really is anything truly better out 
there that I can trust. From the people I've talked with, anyone who started 
with McAfee ePO and moved to Symantec HATES Symantec, and anyone who started 
with Symantec and moved to McAfee HATES McAfee...

If you look at Gartner's last Magic Quadrant : http://www.eset.com/gartner/ 
McAfee, Symantec, Sophos and Trend are the "leaders" in the industry...VIPRE 
didn't even make the list...

Anybody else in the same/similar dilemma or better yet, anybody else 
successfully find a way out that they are pleased with?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
[email protected]<BLOCKED::mailto:%[email protected]>
www.eaglemds.com<BLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/>

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From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc

What do you guys like (besides Vipre, obviously! :)) for 
antivirus/anti-spyware/anti-malware/etc? Our AVG is coming up for renewal in 
January and I'm not sure I want to renew it. I am considering Vipre, although I 
thought the interface (on the home version - didn't have a spare server to set 
up the Enterprise trial) was a bit "clunky" due to having to "white list" an 
app in several different places. :(

I'm also considering purchasing a bunch of licenses for Malware Bytes so I can 
have that on every desktop. I'm also thinking about F-Secure/F-Prot. I know 
that one of our vendors uses and recommends Kaspersky and I have used them in 
the past at home.  Any others?

The idea of using a Microsoft antivirus doesn't sit well with me.... Of course 
there's always the argument of "they know where the security holes are so they 
can protect them." But my answer to that is, "well, if they know where the 
holes are, they can fix 'em and not charge me for an antivirus product!" :)

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