With all due respect, you're still ignoring the fact that the HP drive
controllers are designed to work with drives that have HP firmware ( and
they provide firmware updates for them too )

You can always find sleds and old drives from the refurb companies and then
you can put whatever drive you want at your own risk.  Seems stupid to me
though, like buying a high performance car and then complaining when you
find out you have to buy the expensive high octane gas, when you think the
performance engine should run on low octane. 



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP drive sleds

Okay, is there an option to buy an HP drive without the service to keep me
up? What if I'm okay if the drive fails, and can live with UPS speeds for a
replacement?

Backups are good, m'kay?

I see no option from HP for this. I wish they would.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Peck
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Fri, 04 Dec 2009
11:10:07 -0800
Subject: Re: HP drive sleds


> You pay for the testing yes, but you also pay for the ability to call 
> HP and have them overnight you a drive when yours showed up on the 
> pre-failure warning shows up in SIM.
> 
> You are not paying for a drive so much.  You are also paying for the 
> service to keep you up, or get you back up quickly.
> 
> Steven
> 
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Matthew W. Ross 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm with you, and I agree that the cost of "Server Grade" hard 
> > drives from
> the likes of HP, Dell, and others is outrageous.
> >
> > Now, HP does test their drives, and even a single fault of fairly
> insignificant measure (i.e. one the drive itself can correct) will not 
> pass their tests before they deliver a drive to you. That way they can 
> feel confident that the drive is "server quality". That's great and 
> all, but it still shouldn't be 5-10 times the cost of the same hard 
> drive, shrink wrapped from Western Digital.
> >
> > That being said, I'd be happy to pay double the cost if it was well 
> > tested
> and guaranteed by HP.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Phillip Partipilo
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Fri, 04 Dec 2009
> > 10:50:53 -0800
> > Subject: HP drive sleds
> >
> >
> >> Whoa this is insane.  On the phone, err, handed off the call to 
> >> somebody else here to further speak with a supervisor, we just took 
> >> delivery of a
> HP
> >> DL185, and there are just placeholders for the hard disks in the cage.
>  No
> >> empty cages provided.  They claim there is no way to get an empty 
> >> cage without a drive.  WTF.  They want $100 for a 160 gig drive 
> >> when I can
> get
> >> 2tb Hitachis for $140.  This is bull.  We're ready to box this up 
> >> and
> ship
> >> it right back.  Every Supermicro we've bought have come loaded with
> empty
> >> sleds, and every one of those servers are still running.  I know HP 
> >> is a solid server and that's why we made this purchase, but this is 
> >> grinding
> my
> >> gears.
> >>
> >>
> >> Phillip Partipilo
> >> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> >> Jupiter, Florida
> >> (561) 747-6107
> >>
> >>
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