I didn't say you had to implement your environments wisely. Merely why there was a cost to buying quality products with support.
m'kay? On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay, is there an option to buy an HP drive without the service to keep me > up? What if I'm okay if the drive fails, and can live with UPS speeds for a > replacement? > > Backups are good, m'kay? > > I see no option from HP for this. I wish they would. > > > --Matt Ross > Ephrata School District > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Peck > [mailto:[email protected]] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 > 11:10:07 -0800 > Subject: Re: HP drive sleds > > >> You pay for the testing yes, but you also pay for the ability to call >> HP and have them overnight you a drive when yours showed up on the >> pre-failure warning shows up in SIM. >> >> You are not paying for a drive so much. You are also paying for the >> service to keep you up, or get you back up quickly. >> >> Steven >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Matthew W. Ross >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I'm with you, and I agree that the cost of "Server Grade" hard drives from >> the likes of HP, Dell, and others is outrageous. >> > >> > Now, HP does test their drives, and even a single fault of fairly >> insignificant measure (i.e. one the drive itself can correct) will not pass >> their tests before they deliver a drive to you. That way they can feel >> confident that the drive is "server quality". That's great and all, but it >> still shouldn't be 5-10 times the cost of the same hard drive, shrink >> wrapped from Western Digital. >> > >> > That being said, I'd be happy to pay double the cost if it was well tested >> and guaranteed by HP. >> > >> > >> > --Matt Ross >> > Ephrata School District >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Phillip Partipilo >> > [mailto:[email protected]] >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 >> > 10:50:53 -0800 >> > Subject: HP drive sleds >> > >> > >> >> Whoa this is insane. On the phone, err, handed off the call to somebody >> >> else here to further speak with a supervisor, we just took delivery of a >> HP >> >> DL185, and there are just placeholders for the hard disks in the cage. >> No >> >> empty cages provided. They claim there is no way to get an empty cage >> >> without a drive. WTF. They want $100 for a 160 gig drive when I can >> get >> >> 2tb Hitachis for $140. This is bull. We're ready to box this up and >> ship >> >> it right back. Every Supermicro we've bought have come loaded with >> empty >> >> sleds, and every one of those servers are still running. I know HP is a >> >> solid server and that's why we made this purchase, but this is grinding >> my >> >> gears. >> >> >> >> >> >> Phillip Partipilo >> >> Parametric Solutions Inc. >> >> Jupiter, Florida >> >> (561) 747-6107 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL >> >> AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS >> >> INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, >> >> COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. >> >> IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY >> >> NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT >> >> FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. >> >> >> >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> >> > >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> > >> > >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
