Apple Remote Desktop is more akin to the Windows Management MMC, MS Remote 
Desktop and the SysInternals Power Tools rolled into one package. Open 
Directory is more akin to Group Policy. 

I will see what I can find out about those regulations. 


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

On Sep 7, 2010, at 11:21 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> wrote:

> HIPAA
> SOX
> MA 201 CMR 17.00
> 
> To varying degrees they all boil down to:
> 
> We define a security policy that meets the regulatory requirements and base 
> configurations to meet that policy and then report regularly on performance 
> to standards.  I see from one of your follow-up posts that Apple Remote 
> Desktop is akin to Group Policy.
> 
> -Jeff Steward
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Can you be more specific? What standards are you needing to be compliant to? 
> An example regulation would help me answer your question. 
> 
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> A school environment is not the same as a public company environment.  
>> Compliance to <insert your favorite standard here> and reporting on said 
>> compliance or non-trivial issues for public companies or private companies 
>> subject to other regulations.  There are a wealth of tools for managing 
>> these issues in a Windows environment, can the same be said of the Mac 
>> environment?
>> 
>> -Jeff Steward
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Macs are not the burden you make them sound to be.
>> 
>> Integrating a Mac into a windows network is never going to be painless; the 
>> two systems are inherently different. If what you want is a Windows 
>> experience from your Mac, install Windows.
>> 
>> Now not everybody likes MacOS X, but the same can be said for Windows. 
>> Insert the problem of subjective preference here.
>> 
>> Personally, I love working on my iMac, and managing the other Macs in our 
>> district is very easy if you use the provided Apple tools: Mac OS X server, 
>> Open Directory, and Apple Remote Desktop.
>> 
>> Then again, I hate how a Mac _can_ cost 2x as much as a comparable PC. I do 
>> like that software upgrades are cheaper for Mac, but I don't like how apple 
>> drops support for anything that is not the current generation or the 
>> previous one. If you're 2 generations back, you're out of luck.
>> 
>> What can a Mac do that a PC Can't? Nothing. But I would argue that 
>> competition is one of the pillars of innovation. Without Mac OS X competing 
>> against Windows, what would Windows look like today?
>> 
>> 
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: James Hill
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Sun, 05 Sep 2010
>> 19:28:49 -0700
>> Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
>> 
>> 
>> > We have pretty much eliminated all of the Mac's here.
>> >
>> > We didn't have 3rd party products to manage them so they always required so
>> > much manual interaction.  Any global change we made we could easily 
>> > automate
>> > with PC's thanks to group policy etc but it was always a manual change for
>> > the Mac's.
>> >
>> > They really aren't a corporate product imo.  You only have to look to Apple
>> > for a corporate grade management solution to realise that it doesn't exist.
>> >
>> > They do indeed need patching (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222) and there
>> > is AV products for them.  Symantec has one for example.  Personally I think
>> > the day is coming when someone will write a decent bit of malware/virus for
>> > them and 99% plus will get caught out by it.  There is a very misguided
>> > opinion amongst the Apple community that they are safe.  Apple's false
>> > advertising only strengthens this.  The facts are that Mac's are more
>> > vulnerable than the PC world http://www.crn.com/security/226200083
>> >
>> > More importantly, what is the need for the Mac's in the first place?  For 
>> > us
>> > they were only sued for Adobe CS, which runs just fine on PC's.  In fact
>> > these days Adobe is more behind the PC world than the Mac.  For example,
>> > 64bit Photoshop was first on PC, had to wait for CS5 for Mac to get it.
>> > That's without going into the Flash debate :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:07 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Mac and Windows mix
>> >
>> > I would like to hear from those of you who have a mixed Windows/Mac
>> > environments: How do you handle management of the diverse environment?
>> > Presumably with Mac's there is no patching or AV. Can you use GPO's on them
>> > in any fashion (wondering if there's some add-in to allow equivalency).
>> > David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
>> > NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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