Thanks. I've used that before, and I agree that it's rock solid. For this particular scenario I'm on the lookout for something local rather than a hosted service.
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>wrote: > I have used Log Me In's product, and it works well with the Mac. I have not > tried to do any deployment to our users, though. > > > --Matt Ross > Ephrata School District > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Stovall > [mailto:[email protected]] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 > 11:58:41 -0700 > Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix > > > > Please pardon the semi-hijack. > > > > What solution do you use to give the Mac people remote access to their > > machines? > > > > Thanks, > > RS > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Holstrom, Don <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We have about a dozen Macs here at the Museum. I give them each dual > > > monitor set-ups, with Parallels and Windows with Microsoft Office so > they > > > can Outlook to their e-mail. So far, Mac doesn’t really have a good > > > Rendezvous/Outlook set-up, although OWA is very good and getting > better. > > As > > > I stroll by, I see that each Mac user keeps Office up on one monitor, > so > > > that Outlook is always open. Each of the Macs can already connect to > our > > PC > > > servers where they keep all their files. I give Remote Desktop access > to > > > those who either PC or Mac from the outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > Way too many security openings for Macs, this would not be good with a > > very > > > secure network… > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:[email protected]] > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:34 PM > > > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > > *Subject:* Re: Mac and Windows mix > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't knock yourself out here Matt, I'm just curious how one manages > these > > > issues in a mixed environment. I have one Mac user who works part time > so > > > we set him up with a Remote Desktop client and he works in a Terminal > > Server > > > session. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Steward > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Matthew W. Ross < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Apple Remote Desktop is more akin to the Windows Management MMC, MS > Remote > > > Desktop and the SysInternals Power Tools rolled into one package. Open > > > Directory is more akin to Group Policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will see what I can find out about those regulations. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > > On Sep 7, 2010, at 11:21 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > HIPAA > > > > > > SOX > > > > > > MA 201 CMR 17.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > To varying degrees they all boil down to: > > > > > > > > > > > > We define a security policy that meets the regulatory requirements and > > base > > > configurations to meet that policy and then report regularly on > > performance > > > to standards. I see from one of your follow-up posts that Apple Remote > > > Desktop is akin to Group Policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jeff Steward > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Can you be more specific? What standards are you needing to be > compliant > > > to? An example regulation would help me answer your question. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > > On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > A school environment is not the same as a public company environment. > > > Compliance to <insert your favorite standard here> and reporting on > said > > > compliance or non-trivial issues for public companies or private > companies > > > subject to other regulations. There are a wealth of tools for managing > > > these issues in a Windows environment, can the same be said of the Mac > > > environment? > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jeff Steward > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Matthew W. Ross > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Macs are not the burden you make them sound to be. > > > > > > Integrating a Mac into a windows network is never going to be painless; > > the > > > two systems are inherently different. If what you want is a Windows > > > experience from your Mac, install Windows. > > > > > > Now not everybody likes MacOS X, but the same can be said for Windows. > > > Insert the problem of subjective preference here. > > > > > > Personally, I love working on my iMac, and managing the other Macs in > our > > > district is very easy if you use the provided Apple tools: Mac OS X > > server, > > > Open Directory, and Apple Remote Desktop. > > > > > > Then again, I hate how a Mac _can_ cost 2x as much as a comparable PC. > I > > do > > > like that software upgrades are cheaper for Mac, but I don't like how > > apple > > > drops support for anything that is not the current generation or the > > > previous one. If you're 2 generations back, you're out of luck. > > > > > > What can a Mac do that a PC Can't? Nothing. But I would argue that > > > competition is one of the pillars of innovation. Without Mac OS X > > competing > > > against Windows, what would Windows look like today? > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: James Hill > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 > > > 19:28:49 -0700 > > > Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix > > > > > > > > > > We have pretty much eliminated all of the Mac's here. > > > > > > > > We didn't have 3rd party products to manage them so they always > required > > > so > > > > much manual interaction. Any global change we made we could easily > > > automate > > > > with PC's thanks to group policy etc but it was always a manual > change > > > for > > > > the Mac's. > > > > > > > > They really aren't a corporate product imo. You only have to look to > > > Apple > > > > for a corporate grade management solution to realise that it doesn't > > > exist. > > > > > > > > They do indeed need patching (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222) > and > > > there > > > > is AV products for them. Symantec has one for example. Personally I > > > think > > > > the day is coming when someone will write a decent bit of > malware/virus > > > for > > > > them and 99% plus will get caught out by it. There is a very > misguided > > > > opinion amongst the Apple community that they are safe. Apple's > false > > > > advertising only strengthens this. The facts are that Mac's are more > > > > vulnerable than the PC world http://www.crn.com/security/226200083 > > > > > > > > More importantly, what is the need for the Mac's in the first place? > > For > > > us > > > > they were only sued for Adobe CS, which runs just fine on PC's. In > fact > > > > these days Adobe is more behind the PC world than the Mac. For > example, > > > > 64bit Photoshop was first on PC, had to wait for CS5 for Mac to get > it. > > > > > > > That's without going into the Flash debate :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:07 AM > > > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > Subject: Mac and Windows mix > > > > > > > > I would like to hear from those of you who have a mixed Windows/Mac > > > > environments: How do you handle management of the diverse > environment? > > > > Presumably with Mac's there is no patching or AV. 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