I have used Log Me In's product, and it works well with the Mac. I have not 
tried to do any deployment to our users, though.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Stovall
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2010
11:58:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix


> Please pardon the semi-hijack.
> 
> What solution do you use to give the Mac people remote access to their
> machines?
> 
> Thanks,
> RS
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Holstrom, Don <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > We have about a dozen Macs here at the Museum. I give them each dual
> > monitor set-ups, with Parallels and Windows with Microsoft Office so they
> > can Outlook to their e-mail. So far, Mac doesn’t really have a good
> > Rendezvous/Outlook set-up, although OWA is very good and getting better.
> As
> > I stroll by, I see that each Mac user keeps Office up on one monitor, so
> > that Outlook is always open. Each of the Macs can already connect to our
> PC
> > servers where they keep all their files. I give Remote Desktop access to
> > those who either PC or Mac from the outside.
> >
> >
> >
> > Way too many security openings for Macs, this would not be good with a
> very
> > secure network…
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:[email protected]]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:34 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: Mac and Windows mix
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't knock yourself out here Matt, I'm just curious how one manages these
> > issues in a mixed environment.  I have one Mac user who works part time so
> > we set him up with a Remote Desktop client and he works in a Terminal
> Server
> > session.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Steward
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Apple Remote Desktop is more akin to the Windows Management MMC, MS Remote
> > Desktop and the SysInternals Power Tools rolled into one package. Open
> > Directory is more akin to Group Policy.
> >
> >
> >
> > I will see what I can find out about those regulations.
> >
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> >
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > On Sep 7, 2010, at 11:21 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > HIPAA
> >
> > SOX
> >
> > MA 201 CMR 17.00
> >
> >
> >
> > To varying degrees they all boil down to:
> >
> >
> >
> > We define a security policy that meets the regulatory requirements and
> base
> > configurations to meet that policy and then report regularly on
> performance
> > to standards.  I see from one of your follow-up posts that Apple Remote
> > Desktop is akin to Group Policy.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jeff Steward
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Can you be more specific? What standards are you needing to be compliant
> > to? An example regulation would help me answer your question.
> >
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> >
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > A school environment is not the same as a public company environment.
> >  Compliance to <insert your favorite standard here> and reporting on said
> > compliance or non-trivial issues for public companies or private companies
> > subject to other regulations.  There are a wealth of tools for managing
> > these issues in a Windows environment, can the same be said of the Mac
> > environment?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jeff Steward
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Macs are not the burden you make them sound to be.
> >
> > Integrating a Mac into a windows network is never going to be painless;
> the
> > two systems are inherently different. If what you want is a Windows
> > experience from your Mac, install Windows.
> >
> > Now not everybody likes MacOS X, but the same can be said for Windows.
> > Insert the problem of subjective preference here.
> >
> > Personally, I love working on my iMac, and managing the other Macs in our
> > district is very easy if you use the provided Apple tools: Mac OS X
> server,
> > Open Directory, and Apple Remote Desktop.
> >
> > Then again, I hate how a Mac _can_ cost 2x as much as a comparable PC. I
> do
> > like that software upgrades are cheaper for Mac, but I don't like how
> apple
> > drops support for anything that is not the current generation or the
> > previous one. If you're 2 generations back, you're out of luck.
> >
> > What can a Mac do that a PC Can't? Nothing. But I would argue that
> > competition is one of the pillars of innovation. Without Mac OS X
> competing
> > against Windows, what would Windows look like today?
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Hill
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Sun, 05 Sep 2010
> > 19:28:49 -0700
> > Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
> >
> >
> > > We have pretty much eliminated all of the Mac's here.
> > >
> > > We didn't have 3rd party products to manage them so they always required
> > so
> > > much manual interaction.  Any global change we made we could easily
> > automate
> > > with PC's thanks to group policy etc but it was always a manual change
> > for
> > > the Mac's.
> > >
> > > They really aren't a corporate product imo.  You only have to look to
> > Apple
> > > for a corporate grade management solution to realise that it doesn't
> > exist.
> > >
> > > They do indeed need patching (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222) and
> > there
> > > is AV products for them.  Symantec has one for example.  Personally I
> > think
> > > the day is coming when someone will write a decent bit of malware/virus
> > for
> > > them and 99% plus will get caught out by it.  There is a very misguided
> > > opinion amongst the Apple community that they are safe.  Apple's false
> > > advertising only strengthens this.  The facts are that Mac's are more
> > > vulnerable than the PC world http://www.crn.com/security/226200083
> > >
> > > More importantly, what is the need for the Mac's in the first place? 
> For
> > us
> > > they were only sued for Adobe CS, which runs just fine on PC's.  In fact
> > > these days Adobe is more behind the PC world than the Mac.  For example,
> > > 64bit Photoshop was first on PC, had to wait for CS5 for Mac to get it.
> >
> > > That's without going into the Flash debate :)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:07 AM
> >
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Mac and Windows mix
> > >
> > > I would like to hear from those of you who have a mixed Windows/Mac
> > > environments: How do you handle management of the diverse environment?
> > > Presumably with Mac's there is no patching or AV. Can you use GPO's on
> > them
> > > in any fashion (wondering if there's some add-in to allow equivalency).
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