Don't knock yourself out here Matt, I'm just curious how one manages these issues in a mixed environment. I have one Mac user who works part time so we set him up with a Remote Desktop client and he works in a Terminal Server session.
Regards, Jeff Steward On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>wrote: > Apple Remote Desktop is more akin to the Windows Management MMC, MS Remote > Desktop and the SysInternals Power Tools rolled into one package. Open > Directory is more akin to Group Policy. > > I will see what I can find out about those regulations. > > > > --Matt Ross > Ephrata School District > > On Sep 7, 2010, at 11:21 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> wrote: > > HIPAA > SOX > MA 201 CMR 17.00 > > To varying degrees they all boil down to: > > We define a security policy that meets the regulatory requirements and base > configurations to meet that policy and then report regularly on performance > to standards. I see from one of your follow-up posts that Apple Remote > Desktop is akin to Group Policy. > > -Jeff Steward > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross <<[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Can you be more specific? What standards are you needing to be compliant >> to? An example regulation would help me answer your question. >> >> >> >> --Matt Ross >> Ephrata School District >> >> On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Jeff Steward" < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> A school environment is not the same as a public company environment. >> Compliance to <insert your favorite standard here> and reporting on said >> compliance or non-trivial issues for public companies or private companies >> subject to other regulations. There are a wealth of tools for managing >> these issues in a Windows environment, can the same be said of the Mac >> environment? >> >> -Jeff Steward >> >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Matthew W. Ross >> <<[email protected]><[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Macs are not the burden you make them sound to be. >>> >>> Integrating a Mac into a windows network is never going to be painless; >>> the two systems are inherently different. If what you want is a Windows >>> experience from your Mac, install Windows. >>> >>> Now not everybody likes MacOS X, but the same can be said for Windows. >>> Insert the problem of subjective preference here. >>> >>> Personally, I love working on my iMac, and managing the other Macs in our >>> district is very easy if you use the provided Apple tools: Mac OS X server, >>> Open Directory, and Apple Remote Desktop. >>> >>> Then again, I hate how a Mac _can_ cost 2x as much as a comparable PC. I >>> do like that software upgrades are cheaper for Mac, but I don't like how >>> apple drops support for anything that is not the current generation or the >>> previous one. If you're 2 generations back, you're out of luck. >>> >>> What can a Mac do that a PC Can't? Nothing. But I would argue that >>> competition is one of the pillars of innovation. Without Mac OS X competing >>> against Windows, what would Windows look like today? >>> >>> >>> --Matt Ross >>> Ephrata School District >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: James Hill >>> [mailto: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]] >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> [mailto: >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected]] >>> Sent: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 >>> 19:28:49 -0700 >>> Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix >>> >>> >>> > We have pretty much eliminated all of the Mac's here. >>> > >>> > We didn't have 3rd party products to manage them so they always >>> required so >>> > much manual interaction. Any global change we made we could easily >>> automate >>> > with PC's thanks to group policy etc but it was always a manual change >>> for >>> > the Mac's. >>> > >>> > They really aren't a corporate product imo. You only have to look to >>> Apple >>> > for a corporate grade management solution to realise that it doesn't >>> exist. >>> > >>> > They do indeed need patching ( >>> > <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222><http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222> >>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222) and there >>> > is AV products for them. Symantec has one for example. Personally I >>> think >>> > the day is coming when someone will write a decent bit of malware/virus >>> for >>> > them and 99% plus will get caught out by it. There is a very misguided >>> > opinion amongst the Apple community that they are safe. Apple's false >>> > advertising only strengthens this. The facts are that Mac's are more >>> > vulnerable than the PC world >>> > <http://www.crn.com/security/226200083><http://www.crn.com/security/226200083> >>> http://www.crn.com/security/226200083 >>> > >>> > More importantly, what is the need for the Mac's in the first place? >>> For us >>> > they were only sued for Adobe CS, which runs just fine on PC's. In >>> fact >>> > these days Adobe is more behind the PC world than the Mac. For >>> example, >>> > 64bit Photoshop was first on PC, had to wait for CS5 for Mac to get it. >>> > That's without going into the Flash debate :) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: David Lum [mailto: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]] >>> > Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:07 AM >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: Mac and Windows mix >>> > >>> > I would like to hear from those of you who have a mixed Windows/Mac >>> > environments: How do you handle management of the diverse environment? >>> > Presumably with Mac's there is no patching or AV. 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