ScreenSharing post 10.5 is free. Tho rather primitive if you ask me... To get additional menu options in 10.5 you¹d hack a few plists. 10.6 ³broke² the hack.
On 9/7/10 2:58 PM, "Richard Stovall" <[email protected]> wrote: > Please pardon the semi-hijack. > > What solution do you use to give the Mac people remote access to their > machines? > > Thanks, > RS > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Holstrom, Don <[email protected]> wrote: >> We have about a dozen Macs here at the Museum. I give them each dual monitor >> set-ups, with Parallels and Windows with Microsoft Office so they can Outlook >> to their e-mail. So far, Mac doesn¹t really have a good Rendezvous/Outlook >> set-up, although OWA is very good and getting better. As I stroll by, I see >> that each Mac user keeps Office up on one monitor, so that Outlook is always >> open. Each of the Macs can already connect to our PC servers where they keep >> all their files. I give Remote Desktop access to those who either PC or Mac >> from the outside. >> >> Way too many security openings for Macs, this would not be good with a very >> secure network >> >> From: Jeff Steward [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:34 PM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix >> >> >> Don't knock yourself out here Matt, I'm just curious how one manages these >> issues in a mixed environment. I have one Mac user who works part time so we >> set him up with a Remote Desktop client and he works in a Terminal Server >> session. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Jeff Steward >> >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Apple Remote Desktop is more akin to the Windows Management MMC, MS Remote >> Desktop and the SysInternals Power Tools rolled into one package. Open >> Directory is more akin to Group Policy. >> >> >> >> I will see what I can find out about those regulations. >> >> >> >> --Matt Ross >> >> Ephrata School District >> >> >> On Sep 7, 2010, at 11:21 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> HIPAA >>> >>> SOX >>> >>> MA 201 CMR 17.00 >>> >>> >>> >>> To varying degrees they all boil down to: >>> >>> >>> >>> We define a security policy that meets the regulatory requirements and base >>> configurations to meet that policy and then report regularly on performance >>> to standards. I see from one of your follow-up posts that Apple Remote >>> Desktop is akin to Group Policy. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Jeff Steward >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Can you be more specific? What standards are you needing to be compliant to? >>> An example regulation would help me answer your question. >>> >>> >>> >>> --Matt Ross >>> >>> Ephrata School District >>> >>> >>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Jeff Steward" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> A school environment is not the same as a public company environment. >>>> Compliance to <insert your favorite standard here> and reporting on said >>>> compliance or non-trivial issues for public companies or private companies >>>> subject to other regulations. There are a wealth of tools for managing >>>> these issues in a Windows environment, can the same be said of the Mac >>>> environment? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Jeff Steward >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Macs are not the burden you make them sound to be. >>>>> >>>>> Integrating a Mac into a windows network is never going to be painless; >>>>> the two systems are inherently different. If what you want is a Windows >>>>> experience from your Mac, install Windows. >>>>> >>>>> Now not everybody likes MacOS X, but the same can be said for Windows. >>>>> Insert the problem of subjective preference here. >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I love working on my iMac, and managing the other Macs in our >>>>> district is very easy if you use the provided Apple tools: Mac OS X >>>>> server, Open Directory, and Apple Remote Desktop. >>>>> >>>>> Then again, I hate how a Mac _can_ cost 2x as much as a comparable PC. I >>>>> do like that software upgrades are cheaper for Mac, but I don't like how >>>>> apple drops support for anything that is not the current generation or the >>>>> previous one. If you're 2 generations back, you're out of luck. >>>>> >>>>> What can a Mac do that a PC Can't? Nothing. But I would argue that >>>>> competition is one of the pillars of innovation. Without Mac OS X >>>>> competing against Windows, what would Windows look like today? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --Matt Ross >>>>> Ephrata School District >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: James Hill >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>> >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 >>>>> 19:28:49 -0700 >>>>> Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> > We have pretty much eliminated all of the Mac's here. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > We didn't have 3rd party products to manage them so they always >>>>>> required so >>>>>> > much manual interaction. Any global change we made we could easily >>>>>> automate >>>>>> > with PC's thanks to group policy etc but it was always a manual change >>>>>> for >>>>>> > the Mac's. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > They really aren't a corporate product imo. You only have to look to >>>>>> Apple >>>>>> > for a corporate grade management solution to realise that it doesn't >>>>>> exist. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > They do indeed need patching (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222) and >>>>>> there >>>>>> > is AV products for them. Symantec has one for example. Personally I >>>>>> think >>>>>> > the day is coming when someone will write a decent bit of malware/virus >>>>>> for >>>>>> > them and 99% plus will get caught out by it. There is a very misguided >>>>>> > opinion amongst the Apple community that they are safe. Apple's false >>>>>> > advertising only strengthens this. The facts are that Mac's are more >>>>>> > vulnerable than the PC world http://www.crn.com/security/226200083 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > More importantly, what is the need for the Mac's in the first place? >>>>>> For us >>>>>> > they were only sued for Adobe CS, which runs just fine on PC's. In >>>>>> fact >>>>>> > these days Adobe is more behind the PC world than the Mac. For >>>>>> example, >>>>>> > 64bit Photoshop was first on PC, had to wait for CS5 for Mac to get it. >>>>>> > That's without going into the Flash debate :) >>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:07 AM >>>>> >>>>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> > Subject: Mac and Windows mix >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I would like to hear from those of you who have a mixed Windows/Mac >>>>>> > environments: How do you handle management of the diverse environment? >>>>>> > Presumably with Mac's there is no patching or AV. 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