They are a burden in a corporate environment. As others have mentioned, they just don't scale.
Apple's focus has been very consumer focussed for quite some time now and there is no doubt they've done well in that space. But as also pointed out by others, they just don't have the Corporate solutions to offer. I find it hard to see the benefit of using Mac's in a corporate environment these days. Once upon a time they were the system to have in certain environments (video editing etc). but that really isn't the case anymore. When I do see them in corporate environments they are almost always using RDP or Virtual Box etc to connect to a Windows environment. Why add that complexity? -----Original Message----- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 2:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Macs are not the burden you make them sound to be. Integrating a Mac into a windows network is never going to be painless; the two systems are inherently different. If what you want is a Windows experience from your Mac, install Windows. Now not everybody likes MacOS X, but the same can be said for Windows. Insert the problem of subjective preference here. Personally, I love working on my iMac, and managing the other Macs in our district is very easy if you use the provided Apple tools: Mac OS X server, Open Directory, and Apple Remote Desktop. Then again, I hate how a Mac _can_ cost 2x as much as a comparable PC. I do like that software upgrades are cheaper for Mac, but I don't like how apple drops support for anything that is not the current generation or the previous one. If you're 2 generations back, you're out of luck. What can a Mac do that a PC Can't? Nothing. But I would argue that competition is one of the pillars of innovation. Without Mac OS X competing against Windows, what would Windows look like today? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: James Hill [mailto:[email protected]] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:28:49 -0700 Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix > We have pretty much eliminated all of the Mac's here. > > We didn't have 3rd party products to manage them so they always > required so much manual interaction. Any global change we made we > could easily automate with PC's thanks to group policy etc but it was > always a manual change for the Mac's. > > They really aren't a corporate product imo. You only have to look to > Apple for a corporate grade management solution to realise that it doesn't > exist. > > They do indeed need patching (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222) and > there is AV products for them. Symantec has one for example. > Personally I think the day is coming when someone will write a decent > bit of malware/virus for them and 99% plus will get caught out by it. > There is a very misguided opinion amongst the Apple community that > they are safe. Apple's false advertising only strengthens this. The > facts are that Mac's are more vulnerable than the PC world > http://www.crn.com/security/226200083 > > More importantly, what is the need for the Mac's in the first place? > For us they were only sued for Adobe CS, which runs just fine on PC's. > In fact these days Adobe is more behind the PC world than the Mac. > For example, 64bit Photoshop was first on PC, had to wait for CS5 for Mac to > get it. > That's without going into the Flash debate :) > > > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:07 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Mac and Windows mix > > I would like to hear from those of you who have a mixed Windows/Mac > environments: How do you handle management of the diverse environment? > Presumably with Mac's there is no patching or AV. 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