Yep. That's why, for my wife and I, at least, Wal-Mart is a place we rarely 
shop. For groceries, we normally go to Bi-Lo or Kroger. Very rarely do we go to 
Wal-Mart.




-----Original Message-----
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Resume's

Wow.

-sc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> ROFL! :-) Yeah... lately in my part of the country it seems like a lot of
> "immigrants" (legal and otherwise) like to shop there at the same time and
> bring all 12 of their kids (ages 3-????) and let them run around the store
> completely unsupervised, screaming at the top of their lungs and generally
> getting into everyone's way! :-(
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> John Aldrich
> IT Manager,
> Blueridge Carpet
> 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Resume's
> 
> Yes, it is.  As in almost every time I go in there I feel like I'm going to 
> explode.
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote:
> Walmart is da bomb!
> 
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> I think that would be more annoying than even going to the post office.  One
> presumes the MBS has home delivery or can easily drop off the bills in an
> easily accessible mailbox.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:24 PM, John Aldrich
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, you could always go to Walmart. They offer electronic bill-payment
> through Western Union, I think. Not free, but still ?
> 
> 
> 
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:04 PM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> Yeah, my bank offers online billpay and I use it for my business account, but
> my personal account would have to change to a different account type to get
> online billpay (Ive had this account for 25 years) and I would lose some
> features I like having that they bank no longer offers to new accounts.the
> online billpay is one of the change now! enticements they offer to get
> people off the higher cost (to the bank) accounts
> 
> I guess Im a luddite.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:58 AM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> I refuse. My bank has online billpay, which I use for vendors who dont have
> an online system. The bank will either transfer the money to them (if theyre
> capable of receiving it electronically), or mail them a checkwhich costs me
> nothing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> Im irritated that I still have to use the U.S. Mail to pay two of my monthly
> bills.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> That happened probably 14 years ago, before everybody had email.  My
> resume bombings then consisted of dropping off a stack of envelopes at the
> post office.  Some of you still remember those places, right?  Tell me Im not
> alone!
> 
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:50 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> Part of me thinks extra marks for effort  in a strange way it shows more
> time has gone into it than an email CV bombed to 20 different places.
> 
> My own pet hate is people who send in Publisher documents.
> 
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 15 September 2010 15:48
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> The most memorable resume I ever received was hand written on lined
> paper torn from a spiral bound notebook.  I still cant believe we got it.
> 
> -Paul
> 
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Resume's
> 
> Also a hiring manager (in fact I'm hiring someone this week):
> 
> - Two pages max. Oh you can send me your 4 page resume, but I won't really
> ready past page two and I might just toss yours for being overly verbose. I
> am also a long-term, rabid follower of the www.manager-tools.com [1]
> podcasts/website, but I disagree with their 1 page resume for Technical
> positions.
> - For $diety's sake people Spel Chunk and profred your resume. Then have 3
> other people beside your mom/wife/girlfriend read it...outloud.
> - Don't put an objective on your resume. You're wasting valuable space and it
> means nothing.
> - For each position your bullet points should be accomplishment and results
> focused statements. Don't put "Managed Exchange stuff" on there. But
> rather reword it into something that shows you did something concrete for
> the company either through efficiencies, savings, improved productivity, etc.
> For example (and of course always tell the truth) "Designed and deployed
> Exchange messaging system that consistently provided 99.99% availability
> measured on an annual basis. Responded to all requests for
> adds/moves/changes for users at 100% within the defined SLA's"
> - Related to the point above If you aren't measuring "stuff"
> (stuff=performance metrics, up-time, user help desk response rates/times,
> etc.) start measuring it. Even if your management team doesn't care about it,
> you measure it anyway.
> - Did I mention spel chunking and profreading yet?
> - Cover letter, yes you need one, no matter what. I get cover letters on
> maybe 20% of the resumes submitted. I read 100% of the ones with cover
> letters. Without a cover letter you might get as little as 15-20 seconds of me
> reading your resume.
> - While I personally applaud you for contributing to the community, I usually
> don't want to see that you were a "Northampton County Farm Safety Day
> Volunteer[2]". Now if you participate in something industry related, or it
> shows a very specific skill (for example you sit on the board of a local 
> charity
> and are trying to show management skills).
> - If you want to include a Technical Skills section, please put it near the 
> end,
> not at the beginning. And include only stuff that people have heard of. I
> don't care if you're proficient in some software package that manages
> crushed grape sugar levels unless I hiring you to work at a winery. And if you
> list it, you darn well better have at least an intermediate level of mastery 
> of
> that Tech Skill. There WILL be a quiz. You watching Bob the Coworker install
> vSphere 4.0 does not count as a Technical Skill. Oh, and cut the stupid crap
> like listing NetBIOS and NeiBEUI. That means virtually nothing, and if I do
> decide to quiz you on that I bet you fail and roll over and wet yourself.
> 
> I wrote a couple of Blog posts a few years ago on getting yourself hired (or
> not getting hired). Feel free to check them out here.
> http://hampshire.wordpress.com/category/jobs-and-hiring/
> 
> Finally while these are thoughts that I've personally developed over the
> years, it turns out that a significant number of other IT Managers that I've
> shared these with all concur. YMMV.
> 
> [1] Even if you not a technical manager, subscribe to their Podcasts. Your
> career will thank you.
> [2] This was an actual verbatim bullet point.
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Nope. The more senior the position, the shorter the actual resume gets.
> 
> Oh, and FWIW - I'm a hiring manager. I won't read your 4 page resume. I
> might, at interview, but you'd never get that far.
> ________________________________________
> From: "Sam Cayze" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:23:23 -0500
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]
> software.com>
> Subject: RE: Resume's
> 
> At first I gawked when I read *9* page resume, but then read on, and agree
> with how you did it.  IMO (and many others)  for sure have that info avail,
> on request or as a separate attachment.  I would say: A cover letter, a 1-4
> page resume TOPS, portfolio/addenda, which also includes letters of
> recommendation, documentation examples, references, etc
> 
> A nice portfolio like this, put together well, shows of your seriousness and
> organizational skills.  During an interview, it also gives the interviewer 
> plenty
> of pieces of paper to fumble through while they awkwardly stumble for
> things to talk about
> 
> Any resumes themselves in the 3-4 page range should be for senior
> executive positions only.
> 
> Sam
> 
> From: MarvinC [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:31 PM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Resume's
> 
> One or two line summary followed by bullet points and everything should be
> in chronological order. IT resumes aren't that hard to read depending on the
> format used to describe your particular skillset and the job you're seeking. 
> So
> I say don't pay anyone unless you're desperate. I suggest posting here first 
> as
> I'm sure someone would gladly critique it for you. My resume is currently up
> to 9 pages and filled with mostly redundant info from jobs spanning the last 5
> years. I don't list any contracts lasting less than three (3) months and I 
> keep a
> trimmed copy that's forwarded to hiring managers when needed. I present
> the 9-page booklet during the interview where I'm given the opportunity to
> expand on what's listed because no one wants to read through all of the
> gibberish.
> 
> gl
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Keep the drafts/full versions - those are your career management
> documents. Just don't expect a hiring manager to read them :)
> ________________________________________
> From: "William J. Robbins" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:56:48 +0000
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]
> software.com>
> Subject: Re: Resume's
> 
> Yeah I'm working on cutting mine down drastically. I'm at 3 pages. :P
> 
> WJR
> - from my Crackberry.
> 
> "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
> ________________________________________
> From: "Gary Slinger" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:38:35 +0000
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]
> software.com>
> Subject: Re: Resume's
> 
> Present!
> 
> Seriously, that's good stuff to manage by, and therefore to use as a guide
> from the other side.
> 
> One-pager ideal, two-pages at the outside.
> ________________________________________
> From: William Robbins <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:11:53 -0500
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]
> software.com>
> Subject: Re: Resume's
> 
> http://www.manager-tools.com/podcasts/manager-tools?filter0=30
> 
> I love these guys, thanks again to that Corona Light drinking Limey 
> b...@stard!
> 
>  - WJR
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 16:59, Joseph L. Casale
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have an opportunity coming up and want to make a decent looking resume
> but really dont know whats currently the accepted format etc.
> 
> Anyone have any pointers or examples they wouldnt mind sharing? Id be
> eternally grateful!
> 
> Thanks,
> jlc
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