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From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT -- mail, etc. (Was RE: Resume's) You forgot a tag, I'll add it for ya. </sweepinggeneralization> - WJR On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 14:18, John Aldrich <[email protected]> wrote: No, I did not intend to come across as advocating a check for a green card. Just hit a nerve when someone else mentioned a feeling like they were going to explode when visiting Walmart. Merely commenting on the apparent cultural behavior of recent immigrants (primarily Hispanics) in my area to bring their whole family, including 12 kids under age 12, shopping with them, and then not keeping them under control. I despise having noisy "ankle biters" running around with little or no supervision interfering with my attempts to shop. I'm always afraid that, in our litigious culture, one of them will run out in front of my shopping cart, get knocked down and I'll be sued. I have yet to see a single non-Hispanic family with a whole bunch of kids running wild. Most people don't bring all their kids shopping with them. I don't understand any culture that considers it appropriate to let young children run around unsupervised in the store. My *only* beef is with folks who bring a bunch of young kids to the grocery store and then don't keep them under control. As I mentioned, I have yet to see any non-Hispanic families behave this way. Surely with the way these families tend to live in clusters, they could find a friend or relative to look after the young kids, instead of bringing them along while they are shopping. Thanks, John Aldrich IT Manager, Blueridge Carpet 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233 From: Don Ely [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT -- mail, etc. (Was RE: Resume's) Those are largely my issues as well... Maybe John is thinking they should have the greeters greet everyone with "Papers Please" instead of "Welcome to Walmart".... On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> wrote: To be clear, my issues with Wal-Mart have little to do with the other shoppers (except I tend to dislike crowds). My issues are: the ridiculously few number of lanes open relative to shoppers wanting to checkout, the fact that 20 item express lanes aren't and traffic issues when going to my Wal-Mart. For the express lanes, associates are expressly forbidden to refuse to check a cart that everyone can see has more than 20 items in it. A trip to Wal-Mart for me, after work is a 90 minute affair for me considering traffic issues. I could shorten it to 60 minutes if I want to go to one that is out of the way. I can shorten it to 30 minutes if I wait until evenings or Saturday or Sunday mornings. Wal-Mart is 2.5 miles from my house. I'm a hunter, I go in, club/capture what I need as quickly as possible and would like to be out as quickly as possible. I only wish they would do the self-checkout kiosks at our Wal-Mart, but it is too small. That would relieve a lot of my frustration. Making the Wal-Mart run a solo event has helped considerably. I don't have to worry about leaving stragglers behind, if we do have to make it a family affair we divide and conquer. Then there's the whole way they do business, drive out competition and then raise prices. Although this practice seems to have decreased, or other business have improved their supply and distribution sides well enough to more closely compete with Wal-Mart. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:30 PM, John Aldrich <[email protected]> wrote: Yep. That's why, for my wife and I, at least, Wal-Mart is a place we rarely shop. For groceries, we normally go to Bi-Lo or Kroger. Very rarely do we go to Wal-Mart. -----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Resume's Wow. -sc > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:53 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > ROFL! :-) Yeah... lately in my part of the country it seems like a lot of > "immigrants" (legal and otherwise) like to shop there at the same time and > bring all 12 of their kids (ages 3-????) and let them run around the store > completely unsupervised, screaming at the top of their lungs and generally > getting into everyone's way! :-( > > > Thanks, > John Aldrich > IT Manager, > Blueridge Carpet > 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233 > > > > > > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:07 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Resume's > > Yes, it is. As in almost every time I go in there I feel like I'm going to explode. > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: > Walmart is da bomb! > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> > wrote: > I think that would be more annoying than even going to the post office. One > presumes the MBS has home delivery or can easily drop off the bills in an > easily accessible mailbox. > > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:24 PM, John Aldrich > <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, you could always go to Walmart. They offer electronic bill-payment > through Western Union, I think. Not free, but still ? > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:04 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > Yeah, my bank offers online billpay and I use it for my business account, but > my personal account would have to change to a different account type to get > online billpay (Ive had this account for 25 years) and I would lose some > features I like having that they bank no longer offers to new accounts.the > online billpay is one of the change now! enticements they offer to get > people off the higher cost (to the bank) accounts > > I guess Im a luddite. > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > Consultant and Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:58 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > I refuse. My bank has online billpay, which I use for vendors who dont have > an online system. The bank will either transfer the money to them (if theyre > capable of receiving it electronically), or mail them a checkwhich costs me > nothing. > > > > > John > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:35 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > Im irritated that I still have to use the U.S. Mail to pay two of my monthly > bills. > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > Consultant and Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:32 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > That happened probably 14 years ago, before everybody had email. My > resume bombings then consisted of dropping off a stack of envelopes at the > post office. Some of you still remember those places, right? Tell me Im not > alone! > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:50 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > Part of me thinks extra marks for effort in a strange way it shows more > time has gone into it than an email CV bombed to 20 different places. > > My own pet hate is people who send in Publisher documents. > > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 15 September 2010 15:48 > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > The most memorable resume I ever received was hand written on lined > paper torn from a spiral bound notebook. I still cant believe we got it. > > -Paul > > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:35 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Resume's > > Also a hiring manager (in fact I'm hiring someone this week): > > - Two pages max. Oh you can send me your 4 page resume, but I won't really > ready past page two and I might just toss yours for being overly verbose. I > am also a long-term, rabid follower of the www.manager-tools.com [1] > podcasts/website, but I disagree with their 1 page resume for Technical > positions. > - For $diety's sake people Spel Chunk and profred your resume. Then have 3 > other people beside your mom/wife/girlfriend read it...outloud. > - Don't put an objective on your resume. You're wasting valuable space and it > means nothing. > - For each position your bullet points should be accomplishment and results > focused statements. Don't put "Managed Exchange stuff" on there. But > rather reword it into something that shows you did something concrete for > the company either through efficiencies, savings, improved productivity, etc. > For example (and of course always tell the truth) "Designed and deployed > Exchange messaging system that consistently provided 99.99% availability > measured on an annual basis. Responded to all requests for > adds/moves/changes for users at 100% within the defined SLA's" > - Related to the point above If you aren't measuring "stuff" > (stuff=performance metrics, up-time, user help desk response rates/times, > etc.) start measuring it. Even if your management team doesn't care about it, > you measure it anyway. > - Did I mention spel chunking and profreading yet? > - Cover letter, yes you need one, no matter what. I get cover letters on > maybe 20% of the resumes submitted. I read 100% of the ones with cover > letters. Without a cover letter you might get as little as 15-20 seconds of me > reading your resume. > - While I personally applaud you for contributing to the community, I usually > don't want to see that you were a "Northampton County Farm Safety Day > Volunteer[2]". Now if you participate in something industry related, or it > shows a very specific skill (for example you sit on the board of a local charity > and are trying to show management skills). > - If you want to include a Technical Skills section, please put it near the end, > not at the beginning. And include only stuff that people have heard of. I > don't care if you're proficient in some software package that manages > crushed grape sugar levels unless I hiring you to work at a winery. And if you > list it, you darn well better have at least an intermediate level of mastery of > that Tech Skill. There WILL be a quiz. You watching Bob the Coworker install > vSphere 4.0 does not count as a Technical Skill. Oh, and cut the stupid crap > like listing NetBIOS and NeiBEUI. That means virtually nothing, and if I do > decide to quiz you on that I bet you fail and roll over and wet yourself. > > I wrote a couple of Blog posts a few years ago on getting yourself hired (or > not getting hired). Feel free to check them out here. > http://hampshire.wordpress.com/category/jobs-and-hiring/ > > Finally while these are thoughts that I've personally developed over the > years, it turns out that a significant number of other IT Managers that I've > shared these with all concur. YMMV. > > [1] Even if you not a technical manager, subscribe to their Podcasts. Your > career will thank you. > [2] This was an actual verbatim bullet point. > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]> > wrote: > Nope. The more senior the position, the shorter the actual resume gets. > > Oh, and FWIW - I'm a hiring manager. I won't read your 4 page resume. I > might, at interview, but you'd never get that far. > ________________________________________ > From: "Sam Cayze" <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:23:23 -0500 > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > software.com> > Subject: RE: Resume's > > At first I gawked when I read *9* page resume, but then read on, and agree > with how you did it. IMO (and many others) for sure have that info avail, > on request or as a separate attachment. I would say: A cover letter, a 1-4 > page resume TOPS, portfolio/addenda, which also includes letters of > recommendation, documentation examples, references, etc > > A nice portfolio like this, put together well, shows of your seriousness and > organizational skills. During an interview, it also gives the interviewer plenty > of pieces of paper to fumble through while they awkwardly stumble for > things to talk about > > Any resumes themselves in the 3-4 page range should be for senior > executive positions only. > > Sam > > From: MarvinC [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:31 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Resume's > > One or two line summary followed by bullet points and everything should be > in chronological order. IT resumes aren't that hard to read depending on the > format used to describe your particular skillset and the job you're seeking. So > I say don't pay anyone unless you're desperate. I suggest posting here first as > I'm sure someone would gladly critique it for you. My resume is currently up > to 9 pages and filled with mostly redundant info from jobs spanning the last 5 > years. I don't list any contracts lasting less than three (3) months and I keep a > trimmed copy that's forwarded to hiring managers when needed. I present > the 9-page booklet during the interview where I'm given the opportunity to > expand on what's listed because no one wants to read through all of the > gibberish. > > gl > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]> > wrote: > Keep the drafts/full versions - those are your career management > documents. Just don't expect a hiring manager to read them :) > ________________________________________ > From: "William J. Robbins" <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:56:48 +0000 > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > software.com> > Subject: Re: Resume's > > Yeah I'm working on cutting mine down drastically. I'm at 3 pages. :P > > WJR > - from my Crackberry. > > "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." > ________________________________________ > From: "Gary Slinger" <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:38:35 +0000 > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > software.com> > Subject: Re: Resume's > > Present! > > Seriously, that's good stuff to manage by, and therefore to use as a guide > from the other side. > > One-pager ideal, two-pages at the outside. > ________________________________________ > From: William Robbins <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:11:53 -0500 > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > software.com> > Subject: Re: Resume's > > http://www.manager-tools.com/podcasts/manager-tools?filter0=30 > > I love these guys, thanks again to that Corona Light drinking Limey b...@stard! > > - WJR > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 16:59, Joseph L. Casale > <[email protected]> wrote: > I have an opportunity coming up and want to make a decent looking resume > but really dont know whats currently the accepted format etc. > > Anyone have any pointers or examples they wouldnt mind sharing? 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