You amaze me. -sc
> -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:31 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: OT -- mail, etc. (Was RE: Resume's) > > Yep. That's why, for my wife and I, at least, Wal-Mart is a place we rarely > shop. For groceries, we normally go to Bi-Lo or Kroger. Very rarely do we go > to Wal-Mart. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:14 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Resume's > > Wow. > > -sc > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:53 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > ROFL! :-) Yeah... lately in my part of the country it seems like a lot > > of "immigrants" (legal and otherwise) like to shop there at the same > > time and bring all 12 of their kids (ages 3-????) and let them run > > around the store completely unsupervised, screaming at the top of > > their lungs and generally getting into everyone's way! :-( > > > > > > Thanks, > > John Aldrich > > IT Manager, > > Blueridge Carpet > > 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:07 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Resume's > > > > Yes, it is. As in almost every time I go in there I feel like I'm going to > explode. > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: > > Walmart is da bomb! > > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Jonathan Link > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > I think that would be more annoying than even going to the post > > office. One presumes the MBS has home delivery or can easily drop off > > the bills in an easily accessible mailbox. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:24 PM, John Aldrich > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, you could always go to Walmart. They offer electronic > > bill-payment through Western Union, I think. Not free, but still ? > > > > > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:04 PM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > Yeah, my bank offers online billpay and I use it for my business > > account, but my personal account would have to change to a different > > account type to get online billpay (Ive had this account for 25 years) > > and I would lose some features I like having that they bank no longer > > offers to new accounts.the online billpay is one of the change now! > > enticements they offer to get people off the higher cost (to the bank) > > accounts > > > > I guess Im a luddite. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:58 AM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > I refuse. My bank has online billpay, which I use for vendors who dont > > have an online system. The bank will either transfer the money to them > > (if theyre capable of receiving it electronically), or mail them a > > checkwhich costs me nothing. > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:35 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > Im irritated that I still have to use the U.S. Mail to pay two of my > > monthly bills. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:32 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > That happened probably 14 years ago, before everybody had email. My > > resume bombings then consisted of dropping off a stack of envelopes at > > the post office. Some of you still remember those places, right? > > Tell me Im not alone! > > > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:50 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > Part of me thinks extra marks for effort in a strange way it shows > > more time has gone into it than an email CV bombed to 20 different places. > > > > My own pet hate is people who send in Publisher documents. > > > > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 15 September 2010 15:48 > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > The most memorable resume I ever received was hand written on lined > > paper torn from a spiral bound notebook. I still cant believe we got it. > > > > -Paul > > > > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:35 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Resume's > > > > Also a hiring manager (in fact I'm hiring someone this week): > > > > - Two pages max. Oh you can send me your 4 page resume, but I won't > > really ready past page two and I might just toss yours for being > > overly verbose. I am also a long-term, rabid follower of the > > www.manager-tools.com [1] podcasts/website, but I disagree with their > > 1 page resume for Technical positions. > > - For $diety's sake people Spel Chunk and profred your resume. Then > > have 3 other people beside your mom/wife/girlfriend read it...outloud. > > - Don't put an objective on your resume. You're wasting valuable space > > and it means nothing. > > - For each position your bullet points should be accomplishment and > > results focused statements. Don't put "Managed Exchange stuff" on > > there. But rather reword it into something that shows you did > > something concrete for the company either through efficiencies, savings, > improved productivity, etc. > > For example (and of course always tell the truth) "Designed and > > deployed Exchange messaging system that consistently provided 99.99% > > availability measured on an annual basis. Responded to all requests > > for adds/moves/changes for users at 100% within the defined SLA's" > > - Related to the point above If you aren't measuring "stuff" > > (stuff=performance metrics, up-time, user help desk response > > rates/times, > > etc.) start measuring it. Even if your management team doesn't care > > about it, you measure it anyway. > > - Did I mention spel chunking and profreading yet? > > - Cover letter, yes you need one, no matter what. I get cover letters > > on maybe 20% of the resumes submitted. I read 100% of the ones with > > cover letters. Without a cover letter you might get as little as 15-20 > > seconds of me reading your resume. > > - While I personally applaud you for contributing to the community, I > > usually don't want to see that you were a "Northampton County Farm > > Safety Day Volunteer[2]". Now if you participate in something industry > > related, or it shows a very specific skill (for example you sit on the > > board of a local charity and are trying to show management skills). > > - If you want to include a Technical Skills section, please put it > > near the end, not at the beginning. And include only stuff that people > > have heard of. I don't care if you're proficient in some software > > package that manages crushed grape sugar levels unless I hiring you to > > work at a winery. And if you list it, you darn well better have at > > least an intermediate level of mastery of that Tech Skill. There WILL > > be a quiz. You watching Bob the Coworker install vSphere 4.0 does not > > count as a Technical Skill. Oh, and cut the stupid crap like listing > > NetBIOS and NeiBEUI. That means virtually nothing, and if I do decide to > quiz you on that I bet you fail and roll over and wet yourself. > > > > I wrote a couple of Blog posts a few years ago on getting yourself > > hired (or not getting hired). Feel free to check them out here. > > http://hampshire.wordpress.com/category/jobs-and-hiring/ > > > > Finally while these are thoughts that I've personally developed over > > the years, it turns out that a significant number of other IT Managers > > that I've shared these with all concur. YMMV. > > > > [1] Even if you not a technical manager, subscribe to their Podcasts. > > Your career will thank you. > > [2] This was an actual verbatim bullet point. > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Nope. The more senior the position, the shorter the actual resume gets. > > > > Oh, and FWIW - I'm a hiring manager. I won't read your 4 page resume. > > I might, at interview, but you'd never get that far. > > ________________________________________ > > From: "Sam Cayze" <[email protected]> > > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:23:23 -0500 > > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > > software.com> > > Subject: RE: Resume's > > > > At first I gawked when I read *9* page resume, but then read on, and > > agree with how you did it. IMO (and many others) for sure have that > > info avail, on request or as a separate attachment. I would say: A > > cover letter, a 1-4 page resume TOPS, portfolio/addenda, which also > > includes letters of recommendation, documentation examples, > > references, etc > > > > A nice portfolio like this, put together well, shows of your > > seriousness and organizational skills. During an interview, it also > > gives the interviewer plenty of pieces of paper to fumble through > > while they awkwardly stumble for things to talk about > > > > Any resumes themselves in the 3-4 page range should be for senior > > executive positions only. > > > > Sam > > > > From: MarvinC [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:31 PM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Resume's > > > > One or two line summary followed by bullet points and everything > > should be in chronological order. IT resumes aren't that hard to read > > depending on the format used to describe your particular skillset and > > the job you're seeking. So I say don't pay anyone unless you're > > desperate. I suggest posting here first as I'm sure someone would > > gladly critique it for you. My resume is currently up to 9 pages and > > filled with mostly redundant info from jobs spanning the last 5 years. > > I don't list any contracts lasting less than three (3) months and I > > keep a trimmed copy that's forwarded to hiring managers when needed. I > > present the 9-page booklet during the interview where I'm given the > > opportunity to expand on what's listed because no one wants to read > through all of the gibberish. > > > > gl > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Keep the drafts/full versions - those are your career management > > documents. Just don't expect a hiring manager to read them :) > > ________________________________________ > > From: "William J. Robbins" <[email protected]> > > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:56:48 +0000 > > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > > software.com> > > Subject: Re: Resume's > > > > Yeah I'm working on cutting mine down drastically. I'm at 3 pages. :P > > > > WJR > > - from my Crackberry. > > > > "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." > > ________________________________________ > > From: "Gary Slinger" <[email protected]> > > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:38:35 +0000 > > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > > software.com> > > Subject: Re: Resume's > > > > Present! > > > > Seriously, that's good stuff to manage by, and therefore to use as a > > guide from the other side. > > > > One-pager ideal, two-pages at the outside. > > ________________________________________ > > From: William Robbins <[email protected]> > > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:11:53 -0500 > > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > > software.com> > > Subject: Re: Resume's > > > > http://www.manager-tools.com/podcasts/manager-tools?filter0=30 > > > > I love these guys, thanks again to that Corona Light drinking Limey > > b...@stard! > > > > - WJR > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 16:59, Joseph L. Casale > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have an opportunity coming up and want to make a decent looking > > resume but really dont know whats currently the accepted format etc. > > > > Anyone have any pointers or examples they wouldnt mind sharing? 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