I don't think it breaks down evenly like that.

What would it signify if it did, btw?


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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Phillip Partipilo <[email protected]> wrote:

> Call me out on this one if I am totally off my rocker, but why does it seem
> that all the folks in this particular "debate" who are pro this concept of
> artificial limitations seem to be independent contractors/consultants?
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:10 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
>
> It seems that's an advertising issue as opposed to a technical or "am I
> being robbed" issue.
>
> Given Intel's prowess in the market, I suspect if there's money to be made
> with this model, they'll ensure it's effectively marketed.
>
> Do you know the "Intel Inside" campaign? Can you see the logo in your mind?
> Can you recognize the "Intel chimes" even if you don't see the commercial?
>
> I should think "Intel Inside PLUS!" shouldn't be too difficult.
>
> -sc
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:52 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
> >
> > Here's something I thought of... Sure you'll be able to buy an "unlock"
> > code, but will the end-user realize that they are getting the same
> physical
> > hardware as someone who pays more and know that they can unlock better
> > performance? Thinking about the folks who go into Best Buy or WalMart to
> > buy a new computer (this appears to be the market that this new "feature"
> is
> > aimed at.) My thought is that they're going to buy whatever is on the
> shelf
> > and not realize that they just need to buy an "upgrade"/unlock code to
> > enable better performance.
> >
> > How is that going to help the end-user?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:12 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
> >
> > I disagree that the costs are being subsidized at the low end.  It costs
> less
> > overall to manage the product as a single unit with  unlockable features
> than
> > a two separate products with hard coded features.
> > And since the primary competitor has still not embraced that model, it is
> still
> > possible for someone to compare the value of both the low end processor
> > and the high one independently.  I'll very that both levels of consumer
> well
> > get better pricing than before, even as Intel bags more profits.
> > -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
> > Sent from my Motorola Droid
> > On Sep 21, 2010 6:00 PM, "Ben Scott" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>> But another way to l...
> >  That works as long as no one can offer a comparable but lower-priced
> > product.  If your price is high because your costs are high (living,
> education,
> > experience, etc.), chances are good you'll have continued work --
> potential
> > competitors will likely have similar costs.  If your price is high while
> your costs
> > are low, that's another matter.  If competition moves in, your customer
> base
> > is likely to defect en masse.
> >  Even if you lower your prices to compete, you now have a reputation as
> > having a high price/cost ratio.  Customers often dislike that, and
> express their
> > dislike with their wallets.
> >
> >  Since legislative action is part of the big picture (with the hardware
> thing),
> > popular opinion can matter for that reason, too.
> >
> > >> High price/cost ratios tend to yield unstable long-term  economic
> > >>relationships, unless presti...
> >  They're only better for the customers who buy the product with the lower
> > price and get the lower intended performance.  The customers who pay for
> > more performance get a worse deal.  Both parties get  the same physical
> > material.  Both benefit from the same NRE.  But the high-end guys pay
> > more.  They end up subsidizing the low-end guys.  Sometimes the high-end
> > people don't mind, but sometimes they do.  When people propose taxing
> > the rich to give to the poor, the rich tend to put up a pretty big stink,
> for
> > example.
> >
> > > Frankly, I think that the hardware side of the house has suffered with
> > > low margins as compared ...
> >  I agree completely.  But weren't you just making a point about the scope
> of
> > this discussion?  ;-)
> >
> > >>> I think you're arguing a narrower scope of issues than some other
> > >>>people  are.
> > >
> > > Yes, I am...
> >  Well, your choice, but don't be surprised when you get persistent
> > confusion/disagreement.  One can "win" any argument by carefully defining
> > terms.  If mutual understanding is the goal, you need to change minds.
>  :)
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
>

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