I ran in to the replacement issue on my web filter, turned out it was much 
cheaper to just buy a new box.  I wonder how they price the virtual spam 
appliance.  They obviously can't sell any hardware warranties with it.

________________________________

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Spam appliances/services


Good things about the barracuda that standout are no per user licensing and 
easy to setup for multiple domains with or without ldap lookups.  Since looking 
at other options, I really like the ease and flexibility of how it handles 
domains.

One bad thing that negates some of its price savings:  While software support 
is included in your yearly licensing, hardware support is not.  You have to 
purchase their instant replacement service in addition and it costs about the 
same as a yearly software/energize updates.  

We have a client that had a mirror fail near the end of a three year license on 
a barracuda 400.  Options from barracuda: Pay $700 and ship it to them.  
Turnaround of at least 3 weeks.  Other option:  Pay $3k for the past three 
years of instant replacement coverage and they will overnight a box.

So, you can get a 400 box with five years of updates bundled with it for $8k, 
but you need to also pay $4k if you want barracuda to help with a hardware 
failure.

Bill

 N Parr wrote: 

        <!--[if mso 9]--> <!--[endif]--> 
        +1 on the Barracuda, been using one for 4-5 years now.  Using global 
policy and once I had the spam and ham trained it was set and forget.

________________________________

        From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:52 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Spam appliances/services
        
        

        Barracuda.  

        No per-user fees, very configurable and awesome tech support.  I had 
them at %previousjob% and am trying like heck to get them in at %currentjob%.

        They'll even send you a 90 eval unit for free if you want to try it out.

        Jim Holmgren

        Manager of Server Engineering

        XLHealth Corporation

        The Warehouse at Camden Yards

        351 West Camden Street, Suite 100

        Baltimore, MD 21201 

        410.625.2200 (main)

        443.524.8573 (direct)

        443-506.2400 (cell)

        www.xlhealth.com

        

        

        

        From: Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:45 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: Spam appliances/services

        

        Folks,

        

        I'm in the market to replace my current spam filter.  Google Message 
Security looks pretty good as a service, although it's pricing for us.  I've 
heard good things about Barracuda SPAM and Virus filter, as well as M+ from 
Messaging Architects.  Sorry Sunbelt, we don't run Exchange so your product is 
out.

        

        Anyone have any comments on those products and have any to add?  I 
would for the most part like something to be configured and not to have to 
constantly tweak it.  Also users need to be able to see what's blocked and 
unblock a message if they want.

        

        Thanks,

        Tom

        

        

        Tom Miller
        Engineer, Information Technology
        Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
        757-788-0528

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