If it's already been navigated, then it should be a short corollary to if they don't need domain admin rights, they don't get them.
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM, James Rankin <[email protected]> wrote: > I can easily use a "Server Admins" group - just involves a little extra > work granting some user rights, that's all > > On the other query, users don't run as admins. They're Citrix-based so that > hurdle hasn't arisen - or already been navigated. > > > On 30 September 2010 18:25, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *Please don’t try and use the Server Operators group. It doesn’t >> actually grant hardly anything on your member servers but it will hand out >> all sorts of strange permissions you never expected to your DCs. It’s there >> for legacy (NT4) compatibility. You shouldn’t be populating any of the * >> Operators groups. * >> >> * * >> >> *Thanks,* >> >> *Brian Desmond* >> >> *[email protected]* >> >> * * >> >> *c – 312.731.3132* >> >> * * >> >> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:19 AM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory >> >> >> >> I am seriously going to try to get them to accept Server Operators level >> as a compromise. They can still kill servers all they want, but they should >> be able to be locked out of the finer points of VMWare, XenApp and AppSense. >> Time for my first head-butting session with management in this job. If they >> won't budge - it's going straight on the (not yet existent) risk register. >> >> Cheers, >> >> On 30 September 2010 13:05, William J. Robbins <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> The short answer is yes, if they are domain admins they can do anything >> they like provided they have the knowledge. Including add themselves to the >> Enterprise Admins group since you said you were in a single domain, which I >> interpret as no "empty root." >> >> You could change the ACL's, but again they can undo that with the >> knowledge. >> >> The help desk!? Seriously? Well good luck to you in the new position, >> sounds like you may need some. >> >> >> WJR >> - from my Crackberry. >> >> "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *James Rankin <[email protected]> >> >> *Date: *Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:49:52 +0100 >> >> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> >> >> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" < >> [email protected]> >> >> *Subject: *Restricting groups in Active Directory >> >> >> >> I've just started a new job and we're building an all-new infrastructure. >> One of the key things I'm looking at it is restricting access to the most >> sensitive functions of some of the infrastructure, mainly in VMWare and >> XenApp. I'm currently looking at doing this by using AD groups - creating >> groups for each support team and adding those groups to the relevant areas >> in XenApp and VirtualCenter to give them the necessary permissions. >> >> However, the business are adamant that every member of the support teams >> (from helpdesk upwards) will be given a Domain Admin account. Am I right in >> assuming this means that they could simply add themselves into the groups I >> am setting up, because even if I restrict these groups via an ACL, they >> could just take ownership of the group? >> >> Could I edit the ACL for these groups and Deny Domain Admins the Modify >> Ownership privilege? Or can they override that as well somehow? Is there >> some way I could handle this even if everyone gets given Domain Admin >> access, or will I have to convince them to do things *properly* using >> delegation of privilege? >> >> All input is welcomed, >> >> TIA, >> >> >> >> JRR >> >> -- >> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into >> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' 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