We've had problems too. Last time was an IT guy doing something similar with 
his managed switch.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches

It's not just one mistake.

I don't know what it is about my user population, but at least a couple of 
times a year, and sometimes more often, I have to go chasing down some idiot 
(usually a software developer or hardware engineer) who has connected a little 
switch to itself, or to another little switch.

I'm really tired of it.

Kurt

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 05:47, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> So because someone made a mistake you're condemning using them?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches
>
> Don't. Just don't.
>
> Pull another run of cable if you have to.
>
> Desktop switches are just wrong.
>
> I speak from much experience here.
>
>
> Just last month, we shuffled a bunch of folks around, and the facilities guy 
> was moving PCs and printers, and noticed that there was a loose cable 
> attached to a 5-port switch. So, not knowing what else to do with it, he 
> plugged it into the 5 port switch. Which meant that both ends of the cable 
> were in the same dumb, unmanaged, switch.
> That's your basic layer2 loop, right there.
>
> It killed performance for lots of people, until I tracked it down.
>
> I've had this happen so many times with stupid 5 and 8 port switches that if 
> I could rip them all out I would do so in less time than it takes to write 
> about it.
>
> But, we now have so many of them, because our wiring is so sparse, that I 
> can't. Yet. It's a major line item in the IT CAPEX budget for next year.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:00, John Aldrich <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> One of my users just claimed an unused laser printer for his office (Acct.
>> Manager) that has a network port on it as well as the usual USB. He'd 
>> like to be able to network it so he can print to it from the AS/400.
>> What do you guys recommend for a small (4-5 port) network switch?
>> To anyone who wants to know, this is for real, looking for 
>> recommendations for a RIGHT NOW purchase, not "next time." :-)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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