Thanks. No longer my concern however. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches
RANCID is a wonderful thing in this kind of environment, if you use Cisco. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 14:44, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > I think my "switch guy" says we have over 1000. No guarantees unless you > configured them all yourself. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:09 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches > > But, with a properly configured managed switch, spanning tree will limit the > headache. > > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:22, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >> We've had problems too. Last time was an IT guy doing something similar with >> his managed switch. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:19 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches >> >> It's not just one mistake. >> >> I don't know what it is about my user population, but at least a couple of >> times a year, and sometimes more often, I have to go chasing down some idiot >> (usually a software developer or hardware engineer) who has connected a >> little switch to itself, or to another little switch. >> >> I'm really tired of it. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 05:47, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>> So because someone made a mistake you're condemning using them? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:45 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches >>> >>> Don't. Just don't. >>> >>> Pull another run of cable if you have to. >>> >>> Desktop switches are just wrong. >>> >>> I speak from much experience here. >>> >>> >>> Just last month, we shuffled a bunch of folks around, and the facilities >>> guy was moving PCs and printers, and noticed that there was a loose cable >>> attached to a 5-port switch. So, not knowing what else to do with it, he >>> plugged it into the 5 port switch. Which meant that both ends of the cable >>> were in the same dumb, unmanaged, switch. >>> That's your basic layer2 loop, right there. >>> >>> It killed performance for lots of people, until I tracked it down. >>> >>> I've had this happen so many times with stupid 5 and 8 port switches that >>> if I could rip them all out I would do so in less time than it takes to >>> write about it. >>> >>> But, we now have so many of them, because our wiring is so sparse, that I >>> can't. Yet. It's a major line item in the IT CAPEX budget for next year. >>> >>> Kurt >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:00, John Aldrich <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> One of my users just claimed an unused laser printer for his office (Acct. >>>> Manager) that has a network port on it as well as the usual USB. >>>> He'd like to be able to network it so he can print to it from the AS/400. >>>> What do you guys recommend for a small (4-5 port) network switch? >>>> To anyone who wants to know, this is for real, looking for >>>> recommendations for a RIGHT NOW purchase, not "next time." :-) >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to [email protected] >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >>> >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to [email protected] >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >>> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
