But, with a properly configured managed switch, spanning tree will
limit the headache.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:22, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> We've had problems too. Last time was an IT guy doing something similar with 
> his managed switch.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches
>
> It's not just one mistake.
>
> I don't know what it is about my user population, but at least a couple of 
> times a year, and sometimes more often, I have to go chasing down some idiot 
> (usually a software developer or hardware engineer) who has connected a 
> little switch to itself, or to another little switch.
>
> I'm really tired of it.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 05:47, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So because someone made a mistake you're condemning using them?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:45 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches
>>
>> Don't. Just don't.
>>
>> Pull another run of cable if you have to.
>>
>> Desktop switches are just wrong.
>>
>> I speak from much experience here.
>>
>>
>> Just last month, we shuffled a bunch of folks around, and the facilities guy 
>> was moving PCs and printers, and noticed that there was a loose cable 
>> attached to a 5-port switch. So, not knowing what else to do with it, he 
>> plugged it into the 5 port switch. Which meant that both ends of the cable 
>> were in the same dumb, unmanaged, switch.
>> That's your basic layer2 loop, right there.
>>
>> It killed performance for lots of people, until I tracked it down.
>>
>> I've had this happen so many times with stupid 5 and 8 port switches that if 
>> I could rip them all out I would do so in less time than it takes to write 
>> about it.
>>
>> But, we now have so many of them, because our wiring is so sparse, that I 
>> can't. Yet. It's a major line item in the IT CAPEX budget for next year.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:00, John Aldrich <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> One of my users just claimed an unused laser printer for his office (Acct.
>>> Manager) that has a network port on it as well as the usual USB. He'd
>>> like to be able to network it so he can print to it from the AS/400.
>>> What do you guys recommend for a small (4-5 port) network switch?
>>> To anyone who wants to know, this is for real, looking for
>>> recommendations for a RIGHT NOW purchase, not "next time." :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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