"Install extra cabling" is a solution that has greater expense, and requires
far more permission that "install unmanaged switch" in most circumstances.

There are plenty of valid scenarios where you will not have the opportunity
to add more network drops to a location, and for which the temporary or
permanent deployment of unmanaged switches will be entirely reasonable.


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On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:49 PM, James Hill <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm with Kurt.  Unmanaged switches are just trouble.  Do it properly and
> install extra cabling.
>
> Unmanaged switches have a habit of multiplying.  I've been caught out one
> too many times by a hidden one under a desk somewhere, usually when imaging
> an entire floor with multicast or something when I don't have the time for
> trouble.
>
> I've even seen one of these switches go nuts and flood a core switch so
> much it brought the network to its knees.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2011 5:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches
>
> It's not just one mistake.
>
> I don't know what it is about my user population, but at least a couple of
> times a year, and sometimes more often, I have to go chasing down some idiot
> (usually a software developer or hardware engineer) who has connected a
> little switch to itself, or to another little switch.
>
> I'm really tired of it.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 05:47, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> > So because someone made a mistake you're condemning using them?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:45 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT: desktop network switches
> >
> > Don't. Just don't.
> >
> > Pull another run of cable if you have to.
> >
> > Desktop switches are just wrong.
> >
> > I speak from much experience here.
> >
> >
> > Just last month, we shuffled a bunch of folks around, and the facilities
> guy was moving PCs and printers, and noticed that there was a loose cable
> attached to a 5-port switch. So, not knowing what else to do with it, he
> plugged it into the 5 port switch. Which meant that both ends of the cable
> were in the same dumb, unmanaged, switch.
> > That's your basic layer2 loop, right there.
> >
> > It killed performance for lots of people, until I tracked it down.
> >
> > I've had this happen so many times with stupid 5 and 8 port switches that
> if I could rip them all out I would do so in less time than it takes to
> write about it.
> >
> > But, we now have so many of them, because our wiring is so sparse, that I
> can't. Yet. It's a major line item in the IT CAPEX budget for next year.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:00, John Aldrich <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> One of my users just claimed an unused laser printer for his office
> (Acct.
> >> Manager) that has a network port on it as well as the usual USB. He'd
> >> like to be able to network it so he can print to it from the AS/400.
> >> What do you guys recommend for a small (4-5 port) network switch?
> >> To anyone who wants to know, this is for real, looking for
> >> recommendations for a RIGHT NOW purchase, not "next time." :-)
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
>

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