So (reading between the lines) you're recommending VIPRE as a first
choice for installs under 100 and Trend or VIPRE for installs 100 &
up?

JR

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Graeme Carstairs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Office scan was and still is great but they don't sell that for less
> than100 licenses.
>
> Worry free was and still is broken, they keep adding features and never fix 
> it.
>
> Do not buy is my advise
>
> Ymmv
>
> Graeme
> On Thursday, 17 February 2011, Bill Humphries <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations.  We have 
>> several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS server...and 
>> Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features enabled.
>>
>>
>> Jonathan wrote:
>>
>> Very interesting....
>>
>> We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600
>> nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like
>> what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our
>> own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering.
>> [1]
>>
>> We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I
>> guess everything is relative.) :-)
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and
>> eyerolls now...)
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is infinitely
>> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? Vipre is
>> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third but I
>> am open to nixing them in favor of something else.
>>
>>
>>
>> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from home,
>> multiple SAN’s, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah…
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new over
>> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory but
>> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown.
>>
>>
>>
>> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when downloaded
>> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days.
>>
>>
>>
>> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave you
>> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve performance.
>>
>>
>>
>> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, again
>> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be
>> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only after teh
>> damage was done.
>>
>>
>>
>> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve them. 5
>> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the problems.
>> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different product.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping selling
>> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who wanted
>> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done.
>>
>>
>>
>> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling and I
>> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales figures
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my
>> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. Small
>> environment though, 55 systems, fairly “clean” clients and just two sites.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Cc: Steven Peck
>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend
>>
>>
>>
>> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague.
>>
>>
>>
>> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan
>> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from 5 to 6,
>>
>>
>>
>> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very happy
>>
>>
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Here we go
>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/
>>
>> Steven Peck
>> http://www.blkmtn.org
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about
>> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for an
>> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn’t available.
>> I’m not sure what they’re trying to sell, but they like saying cloud over
>> and over. J
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Gill
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems to work
>> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option to
>> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend’s servers).
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems to me they’re using “cloud” to mean “clients update from us and not
>> your local server”. Does anyone get a different read?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products/enterprise/officescan/
>>
>> Click “Watch OfficeScan video”
>>
>> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
>> NO
>>
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