That's it.

Do not buy worry free, only officescan from trend.
But viper us worth any ones consideration

On Wednesday, 23 February 2011, David Bryce <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would definitely agree with that.
> Vipre has low overheads and Officescan is great but only starts at 100+ :)
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
> So (reading between the lines) you're recommending VIPRE as a first
> choice for installs under 100 and Trend or VIPRE for installs 100 &
> up?
>
> JR
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Graeme Carstairs <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Office scan was and still is great but they don't sell that for less
>> than100 licenses.
>>
>> Worry free was and still is broken, they keep adding features and never fix 
>> it.
>>
>> Do not buy is my advise
>>
>> Ymmv
>>
>> Graeme
>> On Thursday, 17 February 2011, Bill Humphries <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations.  We have 
>>> several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS server...and 
>>> Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features enabled.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan wrote:
>>>
>>> Very interesting....
>>>
>>> We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600
>>> nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like
>>> what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our
>>> own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering.
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I
>>> guess everything is relative.) :-)
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and
>>> eyerolls now...)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is infinitely
>>> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? Vipre is
>>> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third but I
>>> am open to nixing them in favor of something else.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from home,
>>> multiple SAN’s, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM
>>>
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new over
>>> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory but
>>> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when downloaded
>>> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave you
>>> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve performance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, again
>>> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be
>>> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only after teh
>>> damage was done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve them. 5
>>> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the problems.
>>> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different product.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping selling
>>> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who wanted
>>> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling and I
>>> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales figures
>>> time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my
>>> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. Small
>>> environment though, 55 systems, fairly “clean” clients and just two sites.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM
>>>
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>
>>> Cc: Steven Peck
>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan
>>> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from 5 to 6,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very happy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here we go
>>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/
>>>
>>> Steven Peck
>>> http://www.blkmtn.org
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about
>>> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for an
>>> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn’t available.
>>> I’m not sure what they’re trying to sell, but they like saying cloud over
>>> and over. J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Gill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems to work
>>> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option to
>>> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend’s servers).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems to me they’re using “cloud” to mean “clients update from us and not
>>> your local server”. Does anyone get a different read?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products/enterprise/officescan/
>>>
>>> Click “Watch OfficeScan video”
>>>
>>> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
>>> NO
>>>
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