Every SBS site I manage has two servers just to offload some of that (that, and have redundant DC's). In some cases the "server" is a desktop, but it keeps that much less activity off the SBS server. AV and WSUS, that's what an older desktop is good for :-).
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations. We have several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS server...and Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features enabled. Jonathan wrote: > Very interesting.... > > We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600 > nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like > what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our > own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering. > [1] > > We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I > guess everything is relative.) :-) > > Jonathan > > [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and > eyerolls now...) > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is infinitely >> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? Vipre is >> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third but I >> am open to nixing them in favor of something else. >> >> >> >> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from home, >> multiple SAN's, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah... >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >> >> >> >> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new over >> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory but >> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown. >> >> >> >> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when downloaded >> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days. >> >> >> >> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave you >> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve performance. >> >> >> >> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, again >> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be >> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only after teh >> damage was done. >> >> >> >> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve them. 5 >> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the problems. >> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different product. >> >> >> >> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping selling >> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who wanted >> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done. >> >> >> >> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling and I >> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales figures >> time. >> >> >> >> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my >> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. Small >> environment though, 55 systems, fairly "clean" clients and just two sites. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Cc: Steven Peck >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >> >> >> >> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague. >> >> >> >> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan >> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from 5 to 6, >> >> >> >> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very happy >> >> >> >> Graeme >> >> >> >> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Here we go >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/ >> >> Steven Peck >> http://www.blkmtn.org >> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about >> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla. >> >> >> >> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for an >> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn't available. >> I'm not sure what they're trying to sell, but they like saying cloud over >> and over. J >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Gill >> >> >> >> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >> >> >> >> It's 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems to work >> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option to >> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend's servers). >> >> >> >> Seems to me they're using "cloud" to mean "clients update from us and not >> your local server". 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