I play on 5 different teams now, I could easily add some more!!

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote:

> There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball.
>
>  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why are you trying to ruin my retirement?
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high
>>> end] SAN?
>>>
>>> Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your
>>> just looking to store files on it.  Are you going to virtualize all your
>>> servers, rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high availability, or
>>> do you need to provide data access to a large number of disparate servers?
>>> Consider looking at some of the lower end offerings from Synology and Qnap
>>> (heard good things), and avoid Drobo (heard not so good things) and stay
>>> away from Buffalo (don't touch that, it's pure evil).
>>>
>>> This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't it?
>>> Awaiting funding?  The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty affordable,
>>> and get you into iSCSI access realm.  Also, whatever happened to your
>>> project about setting up your own storage server?  With Windows Server 2008
>>> R2 having access to the iSCSI target software MS recently released, that
>>> becomes an option now, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider,
>>>> too.
>>>> :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for
>>>> reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our file
>>>> server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of
>>>> files.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>  Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be pushing
>>>> a lot of IOPS.  It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or
>>>> intensive ERP app etc.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't black and white IMO.  Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all your
>>>> disks are in one big RAID set.  Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and you
>>>> can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, buy
>>>> a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so
>>>> you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I
>>>> bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own
>>>> dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up to
>>>> the SAN. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance.
>>>>
>>>> RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write
>>>> intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept --
>>>> RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a
>>>> chance to order a SAN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> Our new servers are ordered that way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 +
>>>> spare, IMO.
>>>>
>>>> -sc
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here that
>>>> I have two hotspares in my servers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Hornbuckle
>>>> MIS Department
>>>> Taylor County School District
>>>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> No hot spare.
>>>> John W. Cook
>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>> Partnership for Strong Families
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011
>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>
>>>> If you don't have a hot spare then NO!
>>>>
>>>> If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the
>>>> previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any
>>>> rebuilds with the drive you already replaced...
>>>>
>>>> I'd recommend against it.
>>>>
>>>> -sc
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM
>>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>> >
>>>> > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely
>>>> failed and
>>>> > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I
>>>> replaced
>>>> > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has
>>>> an
>>>> > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the
>>>> other
>>>> > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really
>>>> don't want to
>>>> > drive back out here just to swap a drive out.
>>>> > John W. Cook
>>>> > Systems Administrator
>>>> > Partnership for Strong Families
>>>>
>>>>
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