Different AM.  It's an inside baseball kind of thing.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Joseph Heaton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Still in the AM here...if that's what you meant.  Been getting e-mails all
> morning.
>
> >>> John Cook <[email protected]> 4/8/2011 10:45 AM >>>
> Speaking of softballs, am I the only one not getting AM emails????
>
>  John W. Cook
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> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 1:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball.
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> Why are you trying to ruin my retirement?
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high end] SAN?
>
> Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your just
> looking to store files on it.  Are you going to virtualize all your servers,
> rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high availability, or do you
> need to provide data access to a large number of disparate servers?
>  Consider looking at some of the lower end offerings from Synology and Qnap
> (heard good things), and avoid Drobo (heard not so good things) and stay
> away from Buffalo (don't touch that, it's pure evil).
>
> This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't it?
>  Awaiting funding?  The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty affordable,
> and get you into iSCSI access realm.  Also, whatever happened to your
> project about setting up your own storage server?  With Windows Server 2008
> R2 having access to the iSCSI target software MS recently released, that
> becomes an option now, too.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider, too.
> :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for
> reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our file
> server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of
> files.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be pushing
> a lot of IOPS.  It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or
> intensive ERP app etc.
>
> It isn't black and white IMO.  Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all your
> disks are in one big RAID set.  Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and you
> can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, buy
> a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so
> you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I
> bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own
> dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up to
> the SAN. :-)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance.
>
> RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write
> intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept --
> RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a
> chance to order a SAN.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> Our new servers are ordered that way.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 +
> spare, IMO.
>
> -sc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here that
> I have two hotspares in my servers.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> No hot spare.
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership for Strong Families
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >>
> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011
> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>
> If you don't have a hot spare then NO!
>
> If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the
> previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any
> rebuilds with the drive you already replaced...
>
> I'd recommend against it.
>
> -sc
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
> >
> > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely
> failed and
> > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I
> replaced
> > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has
> an
> > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the
> other
> > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really
> don't want to
> > drive back out here just to swap a drive out.
> > John W. Cook
> > Systems Administrator
> > Partnership for Strong Families
>
>
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