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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote:

> I play on 5 different teams now, I could easily add some more!!
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball.
>>
>>  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Why are you trying to ruin my retirement?
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high
>>>> end] SAN?
>>>>
>>>> Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your
>>>> just looking to store files on it.  Are you going to virtualize all your
>>>> servers, rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high availability, or
>>>> do you need to provide data access to a large number of disparate servers?
>>>> Consider looking at some of the lower end offerings from Synology and Qnap
>>>> (heard good things), and avoid Drobo (heard not so good things) and stay
>>>> away from Buffalo (don't touch that, it's pure evil).
>>>>
>>>> This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't it?
>>>> Awaiting funding?  The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty affordable,
>>>> and get you into iSCSI access realm.  Also, whatever happened to your
>>>> project about setting up your own storage server?  With Windows Server 2008
>>>> R2 having access to the iSCSI target software MS recently released, that
>>>> becomes an option now, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider,
>>>>> too.
>>>>> :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for
>>>>> reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our
>>>>> file
>>>>> server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of
>>>>> files.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>  Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be pushing
>>>>> a lot of IOPS.  It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or
>>>>> intensive ERP app etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't black and white IMO.  Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all
>>>>> your
>>>>> disks are in one big RAID set.  Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and
>>>>> you
>>>>> can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support,
>>>>> buy
>>>>> a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so
>>>>> you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I
>>>>> bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own
>>>>> dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up to
>>>>> the SAN. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance.
>>>>>
>>>>> RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write
>>>>> intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept --
>>>>> RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a
>>>>> chance to order a SAN.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> Our new servers are ordered that way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 +
>>>>> spare, IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sc
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here
>>>>> that
>>>>> I have two hotspares in my servers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hornbuckle
>>>>> MIS Department
>>>>> Taylor County School District
>>>>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> No hot spare.
>>>>> John W. Cook
>>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>>> Partnership for Strong Families
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011
>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't have a hot spare then NO!
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the
>>>>> previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any
>>>>> rebuilds with the drive you already replaced...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd recommend against it.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sc
>>>>>
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM
>>>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely
>>>>> failed and
>>>>> > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I
>>>>> replaced
>>>>> > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has
>>>>> an
>>>>> > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the
>>>>> other
>>>>> > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really
>>>>> don't want to
>>>>> > drive back out here just to swap a drive out.
>>>>> > John W. Cook
>>>>> > Systems Administrator
>>>>> > Partnership for Strong Families
>>>>>
>>>>>
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