HA! There's nothing better than having someone lob a bright yellow ball at you in order for you to crush that meaningless sphere into oblivion...
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote: > You lush! > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I play on 5 different teams now, I could easily add some more!! >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Jonathan Link >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Why are you trying to ruin my retirement? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high >>>>> end] SAN? >>>>> >>>>> Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your >>>>> just looking to store files on it. Are you going to virtualize all your >>>>> servers, rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high availability, >>>>> or >>>>> do you need to provide data access to a large number of disparate servers? >>>>> Consider looking at some of the lower end offerings from Synology and Qnap >>>>> (heard good things), and avoid Drobo (heard not so good things) and stay >>>>> away from Buffalo (don't touch that, it's pure evil). >>>>> >>>>> This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't >>>>> it? Awaiting funding? The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty >>>>> affordable, and get you into iSCSI access realm. Also, whatever happened >>>>> to >>>>> your project about setting up your own storage server? With Windows >>>>> Server >>>>> 2008 R2 having access to the iSCSI target software MS recently released, >>>>> that becomes an option now, too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider, >>>>>> too. >>>>>> :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for >>>>>> reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our >>>>>> file >>>>>> server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of >>>>>> files. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be >>>>>> pushing >>>>>> a lot of IOPS. It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or >>>>>> intensive ERP app etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> It isn't black and white IMO. Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all >>>>>> your >>>>>> disks are in one big RAID set. Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and >>>>>> you >>>>>> can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, >>>>>> buy >>>>>> a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so >>>>>> you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42 >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I >>>>>> bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own >>>>>> dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up >>>>>> to >>>>>> the SAN. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance. >>>>>> >>>>>> RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write >>>>>> intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13 >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept >>>>>> -- >>>>>> RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a >>>>>> chance to order a SAN. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> Our new servers are ordered that way. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 >>>>>> + >>>>>> spare, IMO. >>>>>> >>>>>> -sc >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here >>>>>> that >>>>>> I have two hotspares in my servers. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> John Hornbuckle >>>>>> MIS Department >>>>>> Taylor County School District >>>>>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> No hot spare. >>>>>> John W. Cook >>>>>> Systems Administrator >>>>>> Partnership for Strong Families >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011 >>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> If you don't have a hot spare then NO! >>>>>> >>>>>> If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the >>>>>> previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any >>>>>> rebuilds with the drive you already replaced... >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd recommend against it. >>>>>> >>>>>> -sc >>>>>> >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM >>>>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely >>>>>> failed and >>>>>> > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I >>>>>> replaced >>>>>> > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has >>>>>> an >>>>>> > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the >>>>>> other >>>>>> > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really >>>>>> don't want to >>>>>> > drive back out here just to swap a drive out. >>>>>> > John W. 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