Actually...that's what I've been *asked* to setup...a minimum 'set' of contacts from the various locations grouped by function, etc
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: > OK wait, I think there is some confusion here. Yes, OCS is a Microsoft > Product. Microsoft purchased the technology that became Live Communications > Server 2003 and released LCS2005 soon afterwards. OCS2007 is really more in > the mode MS likes and OCS2007r2 included nice improvements. > > All the above said, OCS is a communications tool built on the SIP protocol > and is constrained by that model ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol) and is not like > email despite it being positioned next to Exchanage in the MS messaging > suite. > > SIP leans more towards subscription and OCS overall is a messaging and > presence tool. When you 'add a contact' you are really 'subscribing' to > that contacts presence status. That person is so likely to be someone you > interact with, that it is important that you are 'notified' of their > presence status so that you can communicate more effectively with them. > Everytime a person in your contacts status changes (away, in a meeting, > busy, do not disturb) that change is 'pushed' to all clients with a > subscription to that person. This adds load do the database and environment > and I think the default contacts (subscriptions) per person is 100 (as in > each person can have 100 people add them to their contact list, we've set > ours to 200). If a person is not someone that you interact with on a > regular basis, then why would you want them in your cntacts list? Just look > them up in the address book or see their status in the latest email you got > from them in Outlook. > > An example, I have in my contacts list all the members of my team and the > two other windows team and associated managers. I have specific individuals > from our help desk and the database team and a few people I lunch with and > two project managers whose projects I am a resource on and I will remove the > PMs as soon as the project is done (40 people). Anyone else, I get out of > the address book, I don't normally care what their status' is. > > Distribution lists can be added to a persons contact list and these will > update membership locally but generally these are client driven operations, > not pushed out globally. There are tools/scripts to do this, but it's not > generally how any of the tools in this space operate even though it can be > done. When we first implemented it here some managers wanted to force a > standard 'contacts' list to everyone but we were fortunatly able to brign > them around and not do that. > > What are you looking to do? Force 'standard' contact lists? That will be > an unfortunate adminstrative burden for you. > > Steven Peck > http://www.blkmtn.org > > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Cameron <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yep, the resource kit is installed and I've been looking at them. The >> problem with trying to automate the jobs will be that I can't just do it by >> OU (to break the users into groups) unless I want to start moving people >> around and verifying the GPO's against them. Though it may be something I'll >> do in the future to make the mgmt of this easier. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:02 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> There are some wsf files in "c:\Program Files\Microsoft Office >>> Communications Server 2007\ResKit\WMI Samples" that can help with some of >>> the automated tasks, if you have the resource kit installed >>> >>> >>> On 15 April 2011 14:00, Cameron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok..so it looks like I jumped to a conclusion that it would fully >>>> integrate with AD seeing how it's a MS product. I *thought* that the >>>> contacts were tied to AD and were pushed automatically based on some AD >>>> setting. I've just started reading about this and can't believe how many >>>> hoops you have to go through to push the contacts out, esp if you want to >>>> group them (not using OU's). >>>> >>>> Well, at least it's Friday! >>>> Cheers, >>>> Cameron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Normaly OCS just runs. >>>>> >>>>> Recently I had a simliar issue after a data center power loss >>>>> (maintenence work on UPS, cut back over to UPS, UPS went POP, server room >>>>> went dark, team came in at 2am to power on very surprised servers [new UPS >>>>> ordered, we have a trailer UPS wired in right now]) I had to nuke the >>>>> files >>>>> and syncnow to correct a corrupt address book issue. However, if your >>>>> address book is working normally you will have a few hundred files like >>>>> this. In my ABS directory I have 931 items dating back a little over 30 >>>>> days. >>>>> >>>>> here's a link on how it works: >>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee323492(office.13).aspx >>>>> >>>>> I don't understand the second question. OCS2007r2 will see >>>>> distribution lists are groups in the address list all on it's own. If you >>>>> mean something else let us know. >>>>> >>>>> Steven Peck >>>>> http://www.blkmtn.org >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Cameron >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good morning all, >>>>>> >>>>>> After knocking my head against various problems with the setup (thank >>>>>> you very much Mr. Consultant). I now have them sorted, but I have a >>>>>> couple >>>>>> of questions. >>>>>> 1. Can I delete all the created address book files (there are over 500 >>>>>> Delta and Fulls) and then force an 'abserver -syncnow' to recreate a >>>>>> 'now' >>>>>> version of the gal? (yes I know I'd have to delete the galcontacts.db to >>>>>> get >>>>>> it to recreate). >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. The consultant somehow managed to create groups that the users are >>>>>> being put in to, and I have NO idea where he did that. 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